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            "content": "What is it Hon. Mawathe? The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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            "speaker_name": "Embakasi South, WDM",
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            "content": " Hon. Speaker, the Cabinet Secretary has not responded to my Question. Earlier on, he alluded to the fact that they had earlier hired people who graduated in 2018 and 2022 and yet, a graduate of 2013 has not been hired. Please, let the Cabinet Secretary respond."
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            "content": "Thank you. Cabinet Secretary, do you have an answer?"
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            "speaker_name": "Mr Julius Migos Ogamba",
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            "content": " I am sorry, Hon. Speaker. I did not respond to that one."
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            "content": "Hold on Cabinet Secretary. What is it, Hon. Shinali?"
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            "content": " Hon. Speaker, in the same vein, let the Cabinet Secretary tell us if he is taking any deliberate action to make sure that teachers who graduated earlier are employed first, so that those who graduated earlier are employed first."
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            "speaker_name": "Ikolomani, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Bernard Shinali",
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            "content": "I would also like to know to what extent the Cabinet Secretary is involved in the recruitment of teachers. I would rather that we have the TSC appear before us so that we can get clear answers on the recruitment of teachers."
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            "content": "The Cabinet Secretary is the policy director to the TSC. He is competently here to answer questions. Proceed, Cabinet Secretary."
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            "speaker_name": "Mr Julius Migos Ogamba",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Of course, recruitment of teachers is undertaken by TSC, which is an independent Commission. The policy is that you recruit teachers who graduated earlier first, and not the ones who graduated later. Sometimes, that does not happen because candidates’ years of graduation are different in the different counties they are employed to serve. In order to resolve this anomaly, we are preparing amendments to the current Act of Parliament under the reform program that we have been undertaking through the 2023 Presidential Working Party. We need to change the recruitment policy into law so that it can be followed to the letter. So, my answer, as the policy holder of that particular Ministry, is to ensure that the policy is anchored in law so that it can be complied with. It is true that there could be circumstances where teachers who graduated early were left out for those who graduated late to be taken on board. As a Ministry, we do not have powers to punish TSC for such anomalies because TSC is an independent Commission. Therefore, we need to anchor the policy in law to ensure that that it is followed to the letter."
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