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"content": " Thank you, Member for Turkana Central. I have given you a special leeway because of the nature of Turkana."
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"content": "Hon. Cabinet Secretary, if you have a response for the Member for Turkana Central, kindly proceed. Clarify on the matter that Hon. (Dr) Nyikal and other Members have raised in a minute or two. Thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "On the issue of certificates that Hon. (Dr) Nyikal has raised, I said that the period that we gave the headteachers to release the certificates will expire next week. After that expiry, our officers on the ground will collect data on the principals and headteachers who have refused to release the certificates to the students. We will then deal with them. That is why we said we would act after that, because we gave them 14 days to respond and comply. If they do not, we will take the data and act. Let the parents who will come to you confirm to the sub-county directors of education (SCDs) that they have gone to primary school “A” or secondary school “B” and they have been denied their certificate, and we will have that record. Sub-county and county officers will be going around the country to collect that data. I know some counties that have fully complied, and I also know others who have said they are not going to comply. We are waiting for those who will not comply, and we will deal with them. I know they have been thinking that we would not act, but we are going to act. It is unconstitutional and illegal. Kenya is a country of laws. We are going to deal with them. As I had indicated earlier, we have not received any infrastructural funds for the last two years with respect to the schools that have been submerged. Perhaps, this is the reason why we have not been able to rebuild the schools that were submerged in Turkana. We are trying to work with other Government institutions like the Ministry of Interior and National Administration and the Military, to assist us in those emergency situations to rebuild those schools. We will put those schools in that programme even though we do not have funds at the moment to see that they are done, so that the students can go back to school. On the school feeding programme, if those schools were in the..."
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"content": " Cabinet Secretary, before you leave that part, you know the terrain and the nature of Turkana Central and Turkana in general. It is one of the most marginalised areas. In terms of intervening for them so that they do not lose out on everything, what kind of intervention or special arrangement can be made to ensure that the affected students have somewhere to go back to school? Cabinet Secretary, I am asking this knowing it was not a question in the Order Paper. If there is no response because of how I have asked it, can there be some sort of arrangement, like a meeting, between the Member of Parliament and the Ministry so that we can understand the concerns of the people, and explore a deeper solution?"
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"content": " We suggest that the Member of Parliament come to the office, we sit together and work around, and see whether there is some emergency intervention that we can do even with the other ministries so that we can resolve that matter. If you can kindly make time and come to the office, we will discuss that issue."
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"content": " Thank you, Cabinet Secretary."
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"content": " On the issue of the Junior Secondary Schools (JSS) classrooms, the assessment that was done as to what number of classrooms each school would get, was based on the number of students in Grade 8. The mathematics was on the basis that a classroom would take between 40 to 50 students. So, if you had 100 students in Grade 8, then you would be allocated two classrooms. That was the basis of the differences in the various classrooms based on the number of students who are enrolled in Grade 8. I submit."
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"content": " The last is Question 45 of 2025 by the Member of Parliament for Nakuru County, Hon. Liza Chelule. It is a very sensitive one. Cabinet Secretary, did you have a written response to this particular Question?"
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"content": " Yes."
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