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"content": "I thought your Statement concerned the Cabinet Secretary for Education?"
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"content": "Chair of the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, proceed."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "It is very important to acknowledge that, as the Cabinet Secretary answers those questions, members of the public are also following closely with a lot of interest. That makes the work of this House transparent, and we do not have to belabour what has been said. A constituent has referred me to Question 18 of 2025 in respect of what is termed as Duksi and Madrassa. The response the Cabinet Secretary gave was that plans and programmes are at high gear to ensure that those programmes are introduced to all the schools in the country. His concern is that Duksi and Madrassas are basically on Islamic religion and faith. While we appreciate that in our country we have the Christian and Islamic Religious Education, which are approved curriculum programmes, we are wondering whether those qualify for the statement to be introduced in all schools. That is the clarification we are being asked to make. The Cabinet Secretary is a Senior Counsel just as Hon. George Gitonga Murugara."
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"content": " Normally, we would say Parliament is functus officio on that question. However, Cabinet Secretary, just for clarity, proceed if you have something to say."
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"content": " As I indicated, some policies and guidelines are being developed which will consider how those programmes would be rolled out, and it may not be in all the national schools. Even if it is in all the national schools, not everyone will take the course. It will, perhaps, be for those who are qualified. So, it is something that is being developed to ensure that we meet the obligations of the Constitution and the Basic Education Act, which has provided that we set it up. That is why we are creating policies and guidelines to ensure that there is integration, but there is no interference. That is what is going on. Once the guidelines and policies are done, they will be subjected to public participation before they are finalised. That is why I indicated those timelines, so that each and everybody's take will be considered."
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"content": " Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. Before you make your final remarks on matters policy around education, allow me to permit Hon. Charles Nguna to raise an issue of general policy."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. A total of 15 constituencies committed Ksh10 million in the Financial Year 2023/2024 to construct Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVETS) institutes. Those projects have stalled in most constituencies. What is the Ministry doing to ensure that it completes those projects, including the Mwingi Technical Institute, to which we contributed Ksh10 million? You have not provided the money you committed to provide."
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