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"content": " That is well noted. We will have two Members seated on the left and right. Let us start with Hon. Irene Mayaka."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Given the time constraints, I will be very brief. I take this opportunity to support the Special Motion on the approval of Hon. Caroline Karugu. She is well-known to me. I have had an opportunity to interact and work with her. Her academic qualifications and having an opportunity to work in the public space speaks for her. As the Chairlady of the Committee on Regional Integration, I am very happy to have Caroline on board. Her sentiments about our relationships with other regions, especially the EAC and Pan- Africanism are clearly right. I like that she spoke about the economic aspect and how to strengthen our relationships. I have absolutely no doubt that Carol is the best person for this job. I wish her the absolute best and support the approval of her nomination. I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you very much. Hon. John Waluke, Member for Sirisia. Apparently, the card is indicating that he is in the House. Hon. Jared Okello, Member of Nyando. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also want to join my colleagues in supporting the Motion before us of passing the name of our dear sister, Her Excellency Caroline Karugu. I have known her since our Azimio la Umoja days. Although the country was balkanised along Azimio la Umoja and Kenya Kwanza lines, Hon. Karugu chose to stick with Azimio la Umoja even though coming from a region that was dominated by Kenya Kwanza. This is because she had faith in what Azimio la Umoja could achieve for this country. There are people who flip-flop in politics. Even though Azimio la Umoja faced a loss that we contested and are still trying to figure out how it came to pass, Hon. Karugu never deviated from the bigger vision of sticking with Azimio la Umoja. She played a pivotal role in Baba's African Union Chairpersonship quest. She was part of the team that was putting everything together. When Baba did not make it in Addis Ababa, I remember seeing my sister Hon. Karugu as I walked out of the auditorium where I played a role as the chief agent. She was very devastated and almost in tears. I encouraged her and told her that, “the hyenas have not eaten the earth, there will be another opportunity”. That opportunity has come. Little did she know that she will be part of the Executive and will be making critical decisions in running the affairs of our country and the East African region. We have much confidence in what she will do. She is part of the experts we have graciously donated to this Government. In fact, she will be working under a Cabinet Secretary who is also part of the experts we have given. That is my friend Hon. Beatrice Askul. Therefore, with her support and that of the Government led by our brother Dr William Samoei Ruto, we know she will create an enabling environment for the EAC to trade and do things right. I support my sister Hon. Karugu in the office that she is to occupy. Thank you."
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"content": " Thank you very much. Hon. Members, I do not see interest on my right. I will go to the left and Hon. Millie Odhiambo will be the last one."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Of course, I support the appointment of Hon. Caroline to this position. If you look at her Curriculum Vitae (CV), she is qualified for this position. Let me not say “overqualified” because it has a negative connotation. She responded very well when undergoing vetting. She is personally known to me. As Hon. Jared said, we worked very well with her in Azimio la Umoja. Consistency pays. I encourage even those who are in politics that you need to learn that consistency pays. She was actually nominated from our side. We can vouch for her that she is hardworking and will do very well. I want to indicate that, indeed, women support fellow women. I know earlier on, my good brother, Hon. Junet, had indicated that women tend to not support fellow women, but they do. In Suba North, I am supported by women for all the three terms. You can see that even now we are supporting Caroline and the previous nominee despite the challenges that she faced. I want to encourage Members of this House to understand that when dealing with issues of gender, it means both men and women. Although, when we talk about equality it is sometimes lopsided against women. She is going to this docket at a time when the country is facing a lot of challenges. Looking at the issue of trade with her innovative mind, I am sure she will do a lot to help spruce up the country. I want to note that Hon. Ndindi Nyoro, the former Chairperson of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, has raised very pertinent issues. Even yesterday, I heard him raising the same issue about the ballooning debt and the revenue raising challenges this country is facing. I am sure, as an excellent economist, he knows The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "that one of the drivers of economic development is innovation. I would have hoped that with his brilliant mind, he would have actually raised an innovative idea. This has nothing to do with whether you are left or right, east or west. I think the challenge our country is facing right now, is the ballooning debt and raising revenue without over taxing our citizenry. I wish as Kenyans; we could think of innovative ways of raising revenue. I have thought of a very basic way which I will be sharing as a layman. If I can think of a basic way, why can an economist not think of a more complex way? That does not involve Kenyans paying more taxes but a way of raising revenue to help us repay our debt. My challenge is back to you, why do we not think and be more solution-oriented? Can we find a solution? I will put my proposal, however absurd it may sound, but I think it will raise revenue without taxing Kenyans. With those few remarks and being harassed by the Leader of the Minority Party, I support. Thank you."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you very much, Hon. Millie Odhiambo. Hon. Junet Mohamed rose on a point of order, asking that I call upon the mover to reply. I would like to establish whether that is the mood of the House so I can go ahead and call the mover to reply."
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"content": "(Question, that the Mover be now called upon to reply, put and agreed to)"
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"content": "Mover? Proceed, Hon. Vice-Chairperson."
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