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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
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            "content": " Mr. Speaker, I have a quick comment on this Statement by Senator for Trans-Nzoia. I feel that as a House, perhaps, the Committee that will handle this matter needs to lead this House into making a decision on the number of funds a county government can create. There are counties that up to now, have more than 100 fund accounts, all in separate different bank accounts. That makes it even practically impossible to keep tabs of what each of these funds is doing. As a House, we must make a decision on the justification that needs to exist before a county government can create a fund. Otherwise, we run the risk of county governments actually creating funds for every Kshs10 million and billions that we send to them, therefore, making it virtually impossible to keep track of. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have been seeing the Governor of Trans Nzoia in so many functions, saying so many things, but none to do with devolution. How is he able to do this? You know another time I said in this House, if you want to know a stealing governor, they are very vocal on every subject other than the subject matter for which they were elected for. You will never hear them talk about healthcare or devolved services, but they will be out there parroting, somebody wants to kill me, this and that, I am not threatened, and this kind of business. I want to challenge the Finance and Budget Committee that this matter has been with us for far too long. We cannot just reduce it to be a matter of Statement. Please, guide this House by way of legislation, so that we lead county governments in the right direction. I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Kingi",
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            "content": " Sen. Beatrice Akinyi. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services, Senate."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Ogola",
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            "content": "I thank you, honorable Speaker, for giving me the opportunity. I rise to support the Statement by the Senator of Kisumu, Sen. (Prof.) Tom Ojienda, on the pollution of Lake Victoria. Some time back, a research was done by a German organization. From the findings of that research, somebody said that Lake Victoria could be the largest pit that we have around. That is not very healthy for all of us who depend on it for food, livelihoods and all the activities of life. This Statement addresses the pollution levels in Lake Victoria, and the health risks associated with it. Where I come from, Homa Bay County, which is part of that lake, a number of our people suffer from waterborne diseases largely attributed to pollution of this lake. A number of people even use the lake to dispose of their sewage, and this must be looked into. Sometimes, there have been such allegations that all the waste of the facilities near Lake Victoria go to this lake. It is a real disaster. It is a real environmental problem for the people that live around the lake. My tribe, the Luo, basically are people who feed on fish. We are beginning to think, and I think rightly so, that the fish that our people are feeding on may not be very healthy. Measures must be put in place to restore the lake, not only for transport, but for food and all the environmental issues. I speak as a concerned inhabitant of the Lake Victoria. I cry for our people. All that Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda has raised in the Statement must be looked into, not only for the people of Kisumu, Migori, Homa Bay, Siaya and Busia, but all the people who consume products that come from the lake. I support."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Joe Nyutu",
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity. I rise to support the Statement by Sen. Okenyuri on homeless persons. These are very old problems. There have been attempts to see to it that homeless people, especially in urban centers, are settled, although there has been some resistance. One concern that I have heard from the reading of the Statement by Sen. Okenyuri is that she kept talking about homeless children and vulnerable mothers. Just to say that we should also think about vulnerable fathers because they are also vulnerable. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Committee that will handle this matter should also think and make recommendations about vulnerable and homeless fathers. This also brings to question the issue of affordable housing. The Government has entered into a programme of affordable housing. We question how homeless people will benefit from this programme. This is because when complete, these houses will be sold to people. They will not be given for free. What happens? How will we ever see to it that homeless people get homes if we are constructing houses in the name of affordable housing through overtaxing people while selling the same? How will this particular affordable housing programme benefit homeless people? I am also pleased with the fact that Sen. Okenyuri has raised the issue of cost, because we should also look at that."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Cherarkey",
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            "speaker": null,
            "content": "On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
            "speaker_title": "The Speaker",
            "speaker": null,
            "content": " What is your point of order?"
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            "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir I rise on Standing Order No.105 on Accuracy of Facts. It is unfair that we are using the Floor of the House for cheap populist politics. Is it in order for the Senator of Murang’a to state that Kenyans are being overtaxed yet he knows a Finance Bill is passed by Parliament? Where was he when the Finance Bill was being passed? Which proof does he have to show that Kenyans are being overtaxed?"
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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            "content": " I did not get that bit. Sen. Nyutu, proceed. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and Audio Services, Senate."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Joe Nyutu",
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            "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is a matter of public knowledge that Kenyans are being overtaxed. It is also a matter of public knowledge that before the Kenya Kwanza Government came to power, there was no Housing Levy on the pay slips of Kenyans. It is not far-fetched when I stand here to say that Kenyans are overtaxed. I request Sen. Cherarkey, who is a very progressive Senator, to defend things that are defensible. He is a Member who has been here for quite some time. I think it is important that even as he speaks for the Government, he does not negate things that everybody knows, including primary school children. There is no one who does not know that there was no housing levy before Kenya Kwanza came to power. Mr. Speaker, Sir, having responded, allow me to comment on the fact that this Statement by Sen. Okenyuri raised the issue of the causes of these homeless people being in the streets. The Committee that will look into this matter should also address the root cause of homeless people and not only the solutions. I support and I ask Sen. Cherarkey to have his facts right before he raises some points of order. I have finished."
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Wambua",
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            "content": "I thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I am here to comment on the Statement brought to the Floor by Sen. (Prof.) Ojienda on the pollution of Lake Victoria. It is an open secret that as a nation, we are moving clearly in the wrong direction."
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