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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to also air my views on this meeting that took place in Livingstone, Zambia. The theme of the meeting of Members of Parliament (MPs) from the 12 countries of the Great Lakes region was about climate change and climate adaptation. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "When some people hear the names of the 12 countries, they wonder how we are related to countries like Zambia. If you look at the list of member states, we have Angola, Burundi, the DRC, Zambia, Uganda and so on and so forth. I had the fortune of serving as Commissioner in the Common Markets for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA) Competition Commission for six years. I know when I go to Zambia, I feel so comfortable because they speak like us, their English intonation is like ours, they dress like us and I even found Pokomo names there. If you go down to Malawi, you will find a place called Salima and it is a city equivalent of Kenya's Malindi. You find very good English and Swahili speakers there and you feel totally at home. Mr. Speaker, Sir, all of us from the Great Lakes region are all the same. I am very happy that Kenya was able to take a lead role in the discussions on climate change. Today if there is excess rain up here, outside our borders, the effects will come plummeting all the way to Kenya. They will go all the way down to the Great Lakes region, all the way down to Zambia and Mozambique, because the climate that we are dealing with here in Africa and in the world does not know boundaries. The physical boundaries that we have created are not boundaries for the climate change. It is real that temperatures have been rising, rainfall patterns have changed and the amount of precipitation being received has continued to rise within the Great Lakes region. It is good that Members of parliaments from this region met in Livingstone, Zambia, and discussed what we as nation or team could do about climate change. I know many times when the Great Lakes region converges, people tend to discuss peace and security, but the problems our people are facing because of climate change are real. In fact, it is a very good idea that we who are in positions of authority to represent our people continue to meet within the Great Lakes region to ask ourselves what we will be doing with these rising temperatures, changing rainfall patterns, rise in precipitation and the increase in the waters within the Great Lakes region. What are we going to do? What common joint strategies can we adopt so that our people are protected within these regions? Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am very happy because I have read this report. One of the fundamental resolutions that was made in this meeting is that the parliaments of the Great Lakes region must come up with legislation that will help with climate change adaptation. This legislation ought to be uniform in the region. Why I say this? This is because you will find, for example, Kenya has passed various legislation in the area of climate change, adaptation and mitigation measures. However, some of our member states have not legislated on climate change. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it was my hope and I will still keep recommending this, that a model law be enacted for purposes of legislating on climate change and adaptation within the Great Lakes region. Our various parliaments, when we go back home, will have adapted a model law that can be brought and adapted into the Kenyan, Sudan and Tanzanian circumstances. We must have a law within this Great Lakes region, so that we are able to say this is what we planned to do as your leaders and your representatives in the House. The other thing that this conference resolved was that parliaments must play their role of oversight in the region. When disaster comes, a lot of materials and relief is The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "sourced and brought around, so that we can help our people. However, most of the times our parliaments, including the Kenyan parliament, are left out of the process of procurement. We are left out. In fact, we do not play part in any process. We do not do this at the risk of a lot of our resources being wasted. It is not just in Kenya, but in the entire Great Lakes region. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am glad those who attended, picked up this issue. The issue of oversight on resources is critical. This is because when we pass the budgets in our various parliaments, especially the equitable share here in the Senate, it is given to governors. We do not have an opportunity to oversight these funds that we put for emergency. We are just told 1,000 bags of maize or 20,000 cooking oil jars were bought and stuff like that was done. The emergency procurement laws were not put in place because it was an emergency. When they do emergency procurement, this is where people have been creating climate change millionaires. These people tend to pick certain preferred individuals. Procurement is done in such a way that the role of parliament is reduced. The role of county assembly is reduced. The executive then gets a free hand. They say, people are dying. So, we need emergency procurement. That is where you will hear that a bag of maize is costing five times the normal cost. So, this resolution that we must find a way to oversight within the Great Lakes region and within Kenya is a critical thing. We must find a way to oversight the resources that are allocated for climate change mitigation and adaptation. I wished that the conference would have gone as far as setting up a committee to look at potential model laws that we could develop within the Great Lakes region. I say so because you will find the oversight laws in Tanzania and South Sudan are different from the oversight of Angola or Zambia. All these members have the same intention, but do not have a uniformed approach towards oversight of resources that are being placed at the disposal of our various executives to deal with climate mitigation measures. This needs to be done like yesterday. Mr. Speaker, Sir, moving to peace and security of this region, all the time we sit as conference of parliaments within this Great Lakes region, we cannot avoid discussions on those issues. The best we can do is to practice what we call parliamentary diplomacy. My prayer is that the Great Lakes region Members of Parliament will promote more interaction and understanding within this region. Some of the members of the executive who are holding positions of power can realise that actually in Kenya you can be a president today after your two terms, you are out and about and nobody disturbs you and you will not be harmed by anyone. So, if Members of Parliament, members of the Executive can increase visitations and normalize these political things, then a lot of the worries and instabilities that are being caused may come to an end. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I take this opportunity as we debate this Report on the Great Lakes region to appeal from this House of the Senate that it is our wish to see that the South Sudan political crisis right now is resolved in an amicable way. As the Senate of Kenya, it is very uncomfortable when we hear our Vice-President has been held under restriction. It is our prayer that the political processes within not only the East African Region, but even of the Great Lakes region, can participate in bringing out stability in the region. I would say the same for the DRC. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I watched a very sad prayer session on video of children from the DRC. Young children were speaking that Bakongo Swahili bana ba kongo and their kind of Swahili. Kenyans like to find a lot of jokes in it because of the kind of intonations. This one was a very sad one because the young people were calling upon God and the Holy Spirit to intervene in the hearts of these leaders that they may not die. I was really moved. I thought sometimes people involved directly in the conflict; soldiers, political players and those who support these people forget that there are other victims to these conflicts, including the children. That was an extremely apt presentation of what children go through. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also want to use the floor of this Senate to appeal to all the players in this DRC conflict to find a way to see it through the eyes of those children that they need peace like yesterday. It will be a very sad occasion if the Great Lakes region, particularly the East African community, fail to find an amicable solution to the problems that are affecting the DRC. Finally, as I sit down, we must continue to make all efforts to assist climate resilience plans to support what is being done in terms of climate mitigation because these things are real. I was looking at the news that were running the other day and we saw that Kirinyaga County sinking with a lot of flooding because there has been high precipitation in that area. Our people down the Tana River are very worried right now that if the areas of the mountains have too much rain, they start packing their things to move from the lower grounds. Nobody compensates them or plans for our populations on how they will move and where they will eat. As we are talking now, the river is flooding. The national and county governments do not seem to have answers for our people. When we talk about even planning for climate mitigation, where are the national and county governments? We can now see that Kirinyaga County was flooding because of the rainfall. This water is all coming down all the way to the Tana River County. What are the plans? You do not see the Governor or the Minister in charge of agriculture in our county speaking about this. We do not see any plans; we are just there waiting. As it always happens, we are sleeping in the night, but then all of a sudden, we start seeing things floating within our rooms and then we realize the river has broken its banks. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I pray that even our local administration will do what has been agreed in this international forum. This international forum has said we must always prepare adequately because of climate change. I pray that our local administration, our county government, will wake up to its responsibilities. Let us not wait for the river to destroy lives and property for you to move them out. Let us start dealing with the problems early enough. This is part of what the Senate was learning during this trip that was led to Zambia at the international forum of the Great Lakes region by our team that went there. With those many remarks, I thank you and support this Report."
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