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"content": "skills, drawing from his experiences overseeing multi-agency regional programmes and leading cross-functional teams in the Great Lakes Region and other international assignments. He presented his six-pillar vision for the State Department, including bottom-up planning, performance tracking, and enhanced collaboration with development partners. The approval of these nominees will be very instrumental in strengthening the strategic functions of the Ministry of the National Treasury and Economic Planning. Their wealth of experience will help Kenya tackle public asset inefficiencies and align economic planning with transformative national goals. In line with global trends in public sector reform and economic transformation, the country's expectations for the nominees go beyond the fulfilment of statutory mandates. Kenyans and this House expect the nominees to embrace international best practices proven to enhance transparency, efficiency, and developmental impact. Countries such as South Africa and New Zealand have adopted the International Public Sector Accounting Standards (IPSAS) to improve transparency in public asset management. Those standards provide a structured approach to reporting and accountability, ensuring that governments are clear about the value, condition, and usage of national assets. They must borrow from the best practices globally, such as in the United Kingdom (UK) and Singapore. That can also be done in our country. We encourage the nominees to use the Integrated National Planning System platform. We need to ensure that we use data mining and Sustainable Development Goals (SDG) in our planning predictions. The State Department for Public Investments and Asset Management will be in charge of privatisation. A lot needs to be considered in terms of what should be or should not be privatised. Governments have no business running businesses, and if this House approves these principal secretaries, they should come up with a robust way of ensuring that underutilised resources in this country are properly utilised and that many idle resources and institutions are run more efficiently, even in the private sector. As for the Principal Secretary for the State Department for Economic Planning, we have never taken economic planning seriously as a country. This candidate demonstrated the use of the Bottom-Up Economic Transformation Agenda (BETA) in economic planning, and we encourage him to do two things. First, we need to ensure that our economic planning starts from the bottom of the pyramid all the way up, in addition to ensuring that we include our counties in the national planning of this country. We currently have 47 counties with different economic plans, and they are still part of the Republic of Kenya. We hope there will be an integration of our planning systems between our county governments and the national Government so that we have a robust economic plan. Even though we appreciate the experience of our aged population in the public service, there is still a big deficit of young people. We hope these principal secretaries will have a youth- driven strategy in their State departments to ensure young blood in our planning systems. With those many remarks, I beg to move that the House approves the appointment of these two very professional candidates. I request CPA Hon. Rutto, Member for Kesses and a Member of this Committee, to second."
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. As I rise to second the appointment of the two nominees—Mr Cyrell Wagunda Odede and Mr Boniface Makokha—I appreciate the President for establishing an independent State Department for Public Investments and Asset Management for the first time in Kenya's history. We all appreciate the challenges we have experienced, especially during the promulgation of the new Constitution, when the two levels of Government shared assets and liabilities. We are yet to recover some assets that went missing because there were no clear records, procedures, or specific technical persons to address the issue. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "I support Mr Cyrell Wagunda, who demonstrated a great understanding of asset management and revenue-raising measures. His approach will improve the management of our assets and the performance of our institutions, such as universities. Almost all universities in the Republic of Kenya are going down and declaring redundancies. Where did the rain start beating our institutions? This nominee should investigate, establish the challenges and propose mechanisms for protecting our institutions. This is happening not only in our universities but also in our manufacturing sector, like the New Kenya Cooperative Creameries Ltd (New KCC), which is going to waste. Farmers have not been paid. What are the troubles? Nobody can explain. The county governments are losing land left, right, and centre. I come from a county where land grabbing is wanton. In the future, we will lack space to improve service delivery or establish institutions that will focus on people's needs. Mr Boniface Makokha challenged me. He is a teacher. He has a Master's Degree in Physics. He understands the issues of planning very well because he was exposed to an environment of dealing with people. Planning is not about technical science; it is about social science, dealing with people, reasoning with them and identifying projects that will affect and impact their livelihood. If the nominee is supported, he will transform our country. The first planning system started during the regime of the late President Mwai Kibaki when the Ministry of Planning was established. It came up with the Kenya Vision 2030, which has transformed the country. We need such a person to give us a future beyond 2030. Where will Kenya be in 2050 or 2060? Where will Kenya be in a hundred years? This will enable us to align our planning and budgetary processes to ensure we gear towards that. I second the nomination of Mr Boniface Makokha as the Principal Secretary nominee of the State Department for Economic Planning and Mr Cyrell Wagunda Odede as the Principal Secretary nominee for the State Department for Public Investment and Asset Management. Thank you."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
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"content": " Thank you very much."
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"content": "(Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah and Hon. Junet Mohamed consulted loudly)"
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"content": "Leader of the Majority Party and the Leader of the Minority Party, consult quietly."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Martha Wangari",
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"content": "Leader of the Minority Party."
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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
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"content": " Thank you for this opportunity. I stand to support the Motion by the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. I also thank the Chairman and the Committee for a thorough job because the Report they have brought on those two nominees is factual. Mr Cyrell Wagunda Odede comes from my county, Migori County. I thank His Excellency the President for appointing Mr Wagunda as a Principal Secretary. He is the first"
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