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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
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"content": "to become a Principal Secretary since Independence. Can you imagine? Jasuna is where I come from. He is the first Jasuna to become a Principal Secretary. In my life and as a sitting Member of Parliament, I cannot be prouder than I am today that a jasuna is now a Principal Secretary. Whether from East or West, both are considered Jasuna. Mr Odede is a distinguished career civil servant. He has served this country at the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) for nearly 30 years without any problem, matter, or finger raised against him on integrity or obedience. When given a second opportunity to serve the nation, these are the kind of Kenyans who will serve this country diligently, faithfully, and honestly. I The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "can vouch for this man because I have known him for many years. In his previous capacity, he served this country as a Deputy Commissioner in the KRA. As the Chair of the Committee said, he has all the qualifications. They have checked everywhere and realised or confirmed that he is fit for the position to which he is nominated. The State Department for Public Investment and Asset Management he has been taken to is important and needed by our country. It is one of the newly created state departments. As you are aware, this country has many assets that need to be revived for the benefit of Kenyans. Some of them have malfunctioned, while others have died. We do not even have a proper register of the country's assets. Today, the people Migori I represent in this House are pleased that His Excellency the President has given one of us an opportunity to serve this country. Kenyans will get the services they need through the man called Mr. Cyrell Odede. He is also a social worker. I remember he did much social work in Migori at the KRA. He has been a chair of boards of management of many schools. He has helped the community to the extent that we thought he could do a better job if given another opportunity. I am happy that the appointing authority, in their wisdom, also realised and pointed out that this kind of person will serve the country at a higher level if given an opportunity. Hon. Temporary Speaker, this is how we want to move our country—where people who never thought they would serve this country in positions of Principal Secretaries, Cabinet Secretaries, and other presidential appointments are given an opportunity. I know people like Mr Cyrell who had lost hope. They never thought the national Government would ever see them. They would have been rotting in Migori with the kind of knowledge they possess. The Committee has now confirmed that these people will reform these places. I thank the Leader of the Majority Party because he has played a key role in ensuring this country moves in its current direction. The Leader of the Majority Party has been consulting me as the Leader of the Minority Party and asking how many experts are remaining. We are in thorough consultations with the Leader of the Majority Party anytime he thinks an expert is required. I normally get his phone calls even at 1.00 a.m. or 2.00 a.m. He asks me, \"Do you think there is an expert in the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) who can help issues in government?\" Leader of the Majority Party, continue with that kind of mindset. Who knows? You might become our President in the near future. Who knows? Only God knows. The Leader of the Majority Party has shown leadership in that light. I am happy we as a country are moving in the direction where every Kenyan feels they have a chance to serve their nation. Every Kenyan feels that they can serve in any position in this country. That is where we are not told that we are either shareholders or not. With this kind of appointment, that nonsense has ended in this country. When it came out, the list of the new Principal Secretaries covered the whole Republic. Appointees came from the Coast, Kilifi, Migori, Kisumu, Samburu, Kajiado, Mount Kenya, and all other areas. We are passing a list with faces from all the regions of this country. Going forward, we want that kind of nation. Hon. Temporary Speaker, Suna people are not small. That is where I come from. We have never had a Permanent Secretary since Independence. You know, some communities here speak and say they have been forgotten. I just keep quiet. They do not know that we have also been forgotten. We have been in the trenches of opposition. I think that is why we have been segregated and discriminated for all this time. Finally, things have changed because people who never thought they could serve this country are now being put forward to serve this country. That can only happen under the leadership of a broad-based Government, not previous leaderships. They have forgotten other Kenyans. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "I send the Leader of the Majority Party to convey our message to His Excellency the President that he is going in the right direction regarding bringing Kenyans together. This is the way to go. We will not relent until every Kenyan feels that they are like any other Kenyan, unlike before, when a man would come to his office at 5.00 a.m. to remind us that we are not shareholders. Which shares? When did Kenyan become a company where people buy shares? When did Kenya become a limited liability company where you are judged by the number of shares you have? This is how a nation is built. This is how we can have a united and cohesive nation. I know Kenya is one when I find a Jasuna at the table. We cannot only have a people who speak one language running our Government. That cannot happen anymore. With those few remarks, I thank the Committee. Our side, as the Minority, will support any Kenyan. As long as they can deliver and provide services to Kenyans, we will not mind where they come from, their religion, or their county. I promise on the Floor of this House that we will support them and ensure they are given an opportunity. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Thank you. Leader of the Majority Party."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I also rise to support the Motion for the approval of the two Principal Secretaries. They may be Cabinet Secretaries in the future. The Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning Chairman has elaborated on how well Mr Cyrell Wagunda Odede and Dr Boniface Makokha qualify for these positions. I also agree with the Leader of the Minority Party that it is important to recognise that when a Government is formed, it is formed on behalf of Kenyans to serve all Kenyans. Anybody within the boundaries of the country who is qualified, and a Kenyan can serve in any position. That is why those of us who are fundis not only believe in the Broad-based Government because it brings us together but because it also harnesses and creates a synergy of expertise from across the political divide. We do not need to discriminate against anybody on the basis of where they come from. You have heard that Mr Cyrell Wagunda Odede is a Jasuna, somebody from Suna. This is the first time since Independence that we have had a Jasuna as a Principal Secretary. That tells us that the country is moving in the right direction. We have had principal secretaries from Kikuyu Constituency and some from Gachie in Kiambu, and I look forward to a time in the near future when we will have a Cabinet Secretary from Gachie in Kiambaa Constituency, Kiambu County. Hon. Temporary Speaker, allow me to address the new State Department for Public Investments and Asset Management. I want to tell Mr. Odede that he is coming to a state department where he has been appointed at the right time. I say at the right time because this is coming from a backdrop where the country is implementing International Monetary Fund (IMF) led reforms that were more tax-based. Following the events of last year, we now have to cautiously move away from tax-based reforms in the country and balance this with investments, and more so investments where we can raise money to carry out public investments without necessarily going back to tax Kenyans. The Public-Private Partnerships Act, 2021, that we enacted in this House almost three years ago, has existed in our books. However, we have been extremely slow in rolling out Public-Private Partnerships (PPP) in this country. Hon. Temporary Speaker, where you come from in Gilgil, on a Friday or a long weekend like this one, people take hours to get to Nakuru, a distance of less than 200 kilometres that should take less than an hour."
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"content": " Some actually spend the night there. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " People have slept on the road between Kinale and Gilgil. Over Christmas, some of those going to the western parts of Kenya who could not afford to fly or use the train had to turn and come back to Nairobi because they could not make it, yet they had planned to travel upcountry. This is because we have had challenges doing these roads and expanding our infrastructure in a way that we can without necessarily hurting Kenyans. An opportunity lies, and Mr Cyrell must know he has a golden opportunity to unlock our enormous potential to implement public investments using PPPs. I am not just talking about the planned dual carriage Nakuru-Rironi-Mau Summit Road that probably goes all the way to Malaba, but also about making it an expressway like the Nairobi Expressway. There are many opportunities, such as the investment we see at Bomas of Kenya through PPP. There are many opportunities to implement such projects and position our country in a way that will attract tourists coming for conferencing, not just going to the game reserves. Let me not use the word I was going to use. However, our neighbouring countries, such as Rwanda, which has a much smaller economy than ours and is not as well connected to the rest of the world as Nairobi, will overtake Nairobi in terms of conferencing and conventions. The investment we see at the Bomas of Kenya will unlock this potential and attract more people and businesses to Nairobi for conferencing, conventions, and investments in the country. Mr Cyrell has his job well cut out for him. We expect that this new state department will make a paradigm shift from the current tax-based reforms to investment-based reforms, raising resources from the private sector and unlocking our potential in terms of infrastructure investments. This includes the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) and the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA). Many people do not believe it, but JKIA remains an embarrassment to this country to a large extent. The Leader of the Minority Party says it looks like Machakos Country Bus Station in Nairobi. It is an embarrassment because those who have travelled out of this country have seen the level of investment, even within our region, in international airports. Countries we were priding ourselves to be ahead of them, such as Rwanda and Tanzania, have been overtaking us in public investments. I was shocked the last time I travelled to Istanbul, what used to be Ataturk Airport. I was told it had been decommissioned, and they had built a brand- new airport within a period of two years under PPP by a Turkish company. It is also possible here to build brand new international airports, not just JKIA. It is possible to have an international airport in the Mara where tourists can fly directly from their home countries or to Samburu County. I see Hon. Naisula smiling broadly when she hears Mara and Samburu because she knows the potential that Samburu or the Mara can be unlocked by taking tourists directly there. However, we cannot do this if we depend on taxes and raising taxes from Kenyans to implement these public investments. Mr Cyrell and the officers at the National Treasury who will come into this new state department have the opportunity to unlock that potential for us. I encourage him not to get into the national Treasury and get sucked into the ordinary bureaucracy that we have seen over the years. There are people who have served in this PPP directorate over the years but have not been able to implement a single PPP project. We have been speaking about privatising our sugar companies. This is the opportunity to unlock the huge potential in Western Kenya, other parts of Nyanza, and the Coast that do sugarcane farming using PPPs and privatisation of these companies. This is work that is very well cut out for Mr Cyrell Wagunda Odede. For Dr Boniface Makokha in the State Department for Economic Planning, this is where the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) that we discussed resides. I have seen a former Speaker of this House tweeting that the NG-CDF is illegal. Let me read it because some things are shameful and embarrassing. I would hate to spend time The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "castigating a former Speaker because you are also there as a Temporary Speaker today. He says that NG-CDF is a corrupt, illegal and unconstitutional slush fund to enrich Members of Parliament, their families and cronies unjustly. He says it should, therefore, be scrapped, yet he served in this House as a Speaker, presiding over 349 Members, and also strongly defended that Fund while he served in this House. Today, he is annoyed that we have given a Notice of Motion to appoint a Member of Parliament for Mbeere North as the Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Public Service and Human Capital Development. If you are annoyed with that, please spare the rest of the country from your anger and bile. You sat here as a Speaker for 10 years and justified the existence of the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF). However, simply because today you are not a Cabinet Secretary and your Member of Parliament has been promoted to a Cabinet Secretary, you have started taking your bile to the rest of the country and this House. It is embarrassing, shameful, and uncalled for. I advise the culprits to cool down and relax. There is life beyond public service. The day any one of us is not a Member of Parliament here or not in a position as a Cabinet Secretary, Speaker, or even chief, there is life beyond that. You can graze your goats and cattle and rear your pigs like me. Those doing poultry, like His Excellency Hon. William Ruto, can also do it, and all will be happy. You do not have to be bitter with your son. From one end of the mouth, you seem to be speaking for your son, who is, I think, 50 years old. From the other end of the mouth, you are so bitter with another one of your sons from Mbeere North who has been appointed as a Cabinet Secretary that you are now deriding the entire House in a system of NG-CDF that has worked for the last almost 25 years. In this affront against NG- CDF, Dr Boniface Makokha must ensure that NG-CDF not only continues to exist but is well- resourced. NG-CDF is not for Members of Parliament. I can do my representation, oversight, and legislative work very well as a Member of Parliament without NG-CDF. But I know some children in my Kikuyu Constituency would otherwise not be in school today were it not for NG-CDF."
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