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"content": " I do not want to use such strong words but we need to use Government resources more prudently. How I wish we could see better roads, more water provision and health facilities in most of our villages instead of getting a lot of cash stashed in people's houses. That is what Kenyans are calling for. Regarding the issue of plan to release NGAAF, we do not have any such plan in financial year 2024/2025 because we have zero balance. I would not have a plan to release a zero balance. The money is not that much. Going forward, if it remains at that level of about Ksh3 billion, you should be guaranteed that we will be releasing it in two tranches so that we do not spread it too thin. We cannot have a monthly disbursement for Ksh3 billion. Honestly, it would not make sense. On the issue of sanitary pads, this is a policy decision that Women Representatives can discuss with the line Ministry and come up with a solution. It is not hard. You can just invite the Cabinet Secretary or the Principal Secretary, and you agree. I do not even understand why there are issues around this matter. To me, this is a matter that can be resolved very quickly. What the children need are quality sanitary pads sold at reasonable prices. On the presidential directive of Ksh1 billion, we will try our best, bring the estimates here, and whatever the National Assembly appropriates is what we will give. If you appropriate Ksh1, that is what I will disburse. If you appropriate Ksh10 billion, that is what we will disburse. On the question by the Member of Parliament for Laikipia on whether NGAAF will get its money back, it is upon this House to decide. I may not decide this. Going forward, I beseech Hon. Members to try and protect whatever allocation we have given to this Fund. It is too little."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "On gender-based violence cash, the money is there. We moved it from the Ministry of Gender, Culture, the Arts and Heritage. It is now with Parliament under the Parliamentary Vote. There should be a way through which the money will be disbursed. I know Parliament is very careful on this, but the money is under the Parliamentary Vote. Again, there is a question on sanitary pads, on which I do not want to repeat myself. Finally, Hon. Keynan asked about prioritisation. My strength is in cash flow management. I try so hard to balance things. That is why you will not hear that we cannot pay salaries or have not released capitation money. People will just complain but before the term ends, we released all the money because there is a programme in place. On the NG-CDF, I guarantee you that there is a programme. We will make sure that the entire amount is disbursed, challenges notwithstanding. The same applies to the county government funds. The only outstanding Exchequer request for development funds is Ksh54.3 billion, and we have a plan to release that money. Therefore, in terms of prioritisation, we are up to it. We are working on it and we will ensure that we implement the Budget as you appropriated it. Thank you very much, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Hon. Members, I had allocated 30 minutes to this matter but we have now done one hour. We have the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Hon. Duale, waiting behind here to deal with issues and challenges related to the Social Health Authority (SHA). There are many questions lined up. I want to encourage you, Hon. Members, that the Cabinet Secretary has responded to our call and has spoken to us candidly. You should remember that as we push, there are others also pushing. As your Speaker, I will ensure that, through our administration in Parliament, every word that the Cabinet Secretary has said to the House will be fulfilled. You have also said that you will send Ksh7 billion on or before the 29th of this month. If it is earlier, the better. That is if things work well. On NGAAF for our Women Representatives, it is this House that reduced your money. In the Budget and Appropriations Committee, there are women. Why they did not resist or call for help is a story for another day, but we will encourage Hon. Atandi because the cream that has been removed from that Fund is very small. I encourage him to put it back in the next cycle, so that Women Representatives can at least resume from where they were as we look forward to the economy improving and giving them more. I say this because I have been in this House with you. I know how prudently resources, through the constituencies, are managed as opposed to other management centres that you know. I encourage you that the little you will receive is better than nothing. We encourage the Cabinet Secretary to do much more. Going forward, Cabinet Secretary, as you have committed, try to avoid the jam of January, February and March by dealing with issues at a time when you have better latitude to ensure that what the NG-CDF does continues. Hon. Members, you have gone to court to argue that this is not your money, and I agree with you. It is the money of the people of Kenya, whom you represent. This money is managed by committees that are independent of you. I do not want anybody to pick up The Hansard and rush to court claiming that Members of Parliament have now said they control the NG-CDF. That is how your detractors have been fighting you. The money comes to your constituencies, and it is managed by committees. It benefits the people you represent. You only come back to oversee that money, which is why reports are brought here. Let us leave it there. We thank Hon. Jack Wamboka for raising the issue. I appreciate the enthusiasm that you have all demonstrated in bringing out the salient issues that are pressing Kenyans. Hon. Mbadi, you have been here. You have managed a constituency, and you know what the NG- CDF has done and can do. I was here before the NG-CDF came into being. I am here during The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "the reign of the NG-CDF. I will leave when the NG-CDF is even stronger. So, let us ensure that the NG-CDF remains the centrepiece of our development activities in the constituencies. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, we now release you to go back to your Ministry. Leader of the Majority Party, kindly bring in Hon. Aden Duale. Hon. Caroli Omondi, I know you have an issue unrelated to NG-CDF that you wanted to ask Hon. Mbadi but I prefer that we do not do that now so that we can bring in Hon. Duale. We will ask the Leader of the Majority Party to arrange and have the Cabinet Secretary back here to answer other questions apart from those related to NG-CDF, at the earliest opportunity. In the meantime, you can file your Question. I will have it tabled and forwarded to the Cabinet Secretary for him to deal with it even without appearing before the House. Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you may now leave."
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"content": "(The Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury and Economic Planning (Hon. John Mbadi) was escorted out of the Chamber)"
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"content": "Leader of the Majority Party, bring in the Cabinet Secretary for Health."
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"content": "(Several Members stood along the gangways)"
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"content": "Hon. Members, take your seats. The Cabinet Secretary for Health is coming in."
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