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"content": " To be specific, it is Ksh47,800, which is 2.7 per cent of his income. The good lady who cooks for him, who earns Ksh5,000… I am giving an example. I am not saying you pay her Ksh5,000. You might be paying her more."
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"content": "It is hypothetical. I am just using Ksh5,000 as an example. That lady would pay Ksh300 or Ksh500 to SHA. If she wants to deliver in Pumwani Maternity Hospital, SHA will pay Ksh30,000. She will deliver and walk home with her baby. She will not pay a coin. Hon. Speaker, if your wife delivers at the Aga Khan University Hospital, SHA will pay Ksh30,000 because the first charge is on SHA. Your insurance at Parliament will pay Ksh170,000. But you have a choice for your wife to deliver at Pumwani. So, the rich and the poor must access universal health care. The choice is yours. By paying Ksh47,800, the Speaker is indirectly paying for many people who go through means testing. Those who earned Ksh1 million used to pay Ksh1,700 under NHIF. That was 0.01 per cent. When mama mboga paid Ksh500 for NHIF, she was contributing ten times what the Speaker was paying. For equity purposes, the law you amended states that for everybody to access equitable, affordable and accessible quality health care, the formula should be 2.5 per cent of the income they earn. Hon. Oundo, my good friend from the former Public Accounts Committee (PAC), regarding the indigents, the National Government is doing the means testing using the Social Health Protection Database. Regarding Hon. KJ’s…"
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"speaker_name": "Emuhaya, ANC",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Speaker. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Mwalimu, what is your point of Order?"
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"content": " Thank you, Cabinet Secretary. You have excited my support for SHA. When you were the Leader of the Majority Party in this House, we were making the original law on Universal Health Coverage. As you will recall, I moved an amendment that the defunct NHIF becomes the first charge on the medical bills of patients. I am so happy to hear this. I want you to confirm not just to the House but to the country that SHA is the first charge before the private medical cover. That was my baby back then. Thank you."
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"content": "That was more of information than point of order. Yes, Hon. Millie."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I had pressed the button earlier, but I thought you wanted to let the Cabinet Secretary speak a little more. He has referred to the Reproductive Health Bill from the Ministry. I just want him to clarify because I have the Reproductive Healthcare Bill, which…"
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"content": "(Hon. Prof Guyo Jaldesa spoke off the record)"
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