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"speaker_name": "Kiambaa, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Njuguna Kawanjiku",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. Many of the questions that I would have raised have been asked by Members, but I have a question on Primary Health Care and the quality the Cabinet Secretary has talked about. On the money that goes to counties, I do not know if there is a system and how it operates between county governments and the national Government. The reason we are paying excessively is to make sure that we get quality healthcare in our primary Levels 1, 2, 3, and 4 hospitals. Even as we pay a lot of money to these hospitals, there are no drugs and doctors. I have a Level 4 hospital known as Karuri Hospital. When you go to that hospital at 7.00 a.m. you find no doctors and nurses, but we expect that they will give quality healthcare. Indeed, that is next to impossible! There must be a way the Ministry is able to secure and track the money and the resources that they send to these hospitals and make sure that there is prudent use of the resources in these hospitals between the county governments and the national Government. We are paying expressively so that we can avoid the many Harambees where we normally cough out money during weekends. Yesterday, I had a patient who was sent by Kenyatta National Hospital to go and seek services outside because their machines were not operational. I had to cough about Ksh20,000 for that patient. She also told me that I had to follow up the case because she could not be admitted. Such kind of a patient is above treatment at Levels 1, 2, 3, and 4 hospitals. So, still the quality healthcare we are talking about cannot be realised in the hospitals. The Cabinet Secretary should make sure that there is a serious follow up as far as resources are concerned to ensure prudent use of money. Thank you."
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"content": "Point made. Thank you. Cabinet Secretary, your response to that."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Aden Duale",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, this House passed a law called Facility Improvement Fund Act. That Act allows county hospitals or The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "facilities the Hon. Member is talking about to receive monies directly from the Social Health Authority (SHA) without passing through the county revenue account. So, we have a safeguard. If a Kenyan cannot get the right drugs and the right doctor at a public primary healthcare facility, they can walk to the nearest faith-based or private facility. So, there is a choice. I want to assure this House that it passed the Facility Improvement Act. It is good to be honest to the country and remove politics from this matter. The SHA will only pay for the people who visit a facility. So, if there are no people who have visited a facility, it gets zero. If a patient is not happy with the closest public health care facility, they have an alternative. They can go to a faith-based facility or to a private facility of equal level within the reading of the Primary Health Care, that is, Level 2 to Level 4."
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"speaker_name": "Kitui Central, WDM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Speaker."
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"content": "Yes, what is your point of order?"
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"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I have no question. I just wanted your direction. We have a number of questions in the Order Paper. Are you able to help us in terms of …."
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"content": "I was going to give direction on that. Yes, Hon. Kaguchia."
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"speaker_name": "Mukurweini, UDA",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, thank you very much. I just want to, first, say that Mukurweini Constituency…"
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"content": "Hold your horses. Take your seat. You are hijacking the Floor. I was going to give direction on how we go to the next thing. We are finished with Kawanjiku's questions. So we want to go to the next. Take your seat. You will have an opportunity."
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