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"content": " Just give him 30 seconds to finish, please. Will that be adequate?"
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"content": "Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker. It is good for us as a Senate and also the National Assembly, to think about the next generation when we come up with laws. We should make laws for posterity. Before any law is passed by this House, we should be asking ourselves, how will it affect our country in the next five or 10 years? That is what exactly Sen. Ledama was saying. I urge the House to support that we do have a standing committee on future. That is foresight."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I would like to add my voice to Sen. Onyonka's statement about illegal organ trade. This has since been brought to the public and to the limelight that our youth are being recruited by rogue agents, particularly in the area of Eldoret, to sell their kidneys for less than US$1000. Now the going rate, apparently, is US$250,000 to US$D300,000 for a kidney. Apparently, it has become such a lucrative business for these agents, because once they do that they are selling these kidneys at about Kshs9 million to India. We have a whole group of cartels who have organized that space in a way that it has become a norm in Eldoret. Madam Temporary Speaker, it is unfortunate that this has even spread down to the labour export agents. Agents who are supposed to be taking people to go and work abroad are now looking for desperate youth to ensure that they harvest their organs and make a killing in between for agency fee. Some are being lied to that they will work outside and it is all under the Government’s watch. I hope that when this statement is dealt with, we will not just give a report as usual. We have to see arrests. There are many of our desperate youth who have ended up with severe complications because they are being promised Kshs300,000 instantly. Some are being promised an exchange for a boda boda . Can you imagine? Being so desperate, they are saying, “Let me give out my kidneys to own a boda boda and start earning a living. This is unfortunate. It is not what this Government intended to do with our youth."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to comment on the statement by Sen. Onyonka. Before I do so, I have forgiven my counterpart from Kiambu. During the campaigns, we used to transport people from Murima . They would go and see how western region and the lake looks like. We take our people from western; The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "they also come and see the difference between Kiambu, Murang’a and the others. This was because some Kenyans have never gone past their homes and their home areas. They do not know the difference between Kakamega, Bungoma, Vihiga and Trans Nzoia counties. To him, we all look the same. He looks at me and sees Sen. (Dr.) Khlawale. There is need for cultural exchange, which is why it was terrible that Senate Mashinani, which was scheduled to happen in Busia last year, was cancelled. I think the Senator for Kiambu County would have benefited from that trip. I also watched with horror last night, the news on these reports of organ harvesting at a very hitherto credible medical facility in Eldoret. Many of us actually have even sought services there. Many of our parents, especially from Western Kenya, consider this facility a very credible one. In fact, when the late Lawrence Sifuna passed away, that was the facility that was taking care of him. We were in shock. It points to a greater problem in the country, not just the exploitation of young people, but Kenyans are so desperate now that they consider some of the parts of their bodies not useful. They are available for sale and so that they can feed only one organ; that is the stomach. It is a sad situation. In the newspapers in the morning, I read that there were top officials of the Ministry of Health that doctored the report on this organ harvesting and trafficking business to remove what they call “damning sections” of that report. I think those are the people the committee should go for. If we are unable to provide a good living for our people such that they can be exploited like this, we, at the very minimum, should be able to catch the people who are exploiting them when it happens in the circumstances that have happened with Mediheal Hospital in Eldoret. Madam Temporary Speaker, our committee should focus on those people. We want the original, unadulterated report, so that we know the culprits and we prescribe the best punishment for them. There should be arrests as the Senators who have spoken before me have said. Madam Temporary Speaker, I do not know what is happening to professionalism in this country. I think Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you must speak to this. Even those Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Union (KMPDU) and Kenyan Medical Association (KMA) need now to enforce ethical behaviour within their own profession."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the statement on the issue of kidney transplant operations by Mediheal Hospital in Eldoret. I used to think these Mediheal group of hospitals was credible. As my colleagues have said, a number of us have sought medical services there. I watched with horror, gnashing of teeth and with a lot of fear when I saw that the hospital was facilitating the harvesting of kidneys from some of our young people to Israel. I am happy the Israeli Embassy in Nairobi has issued a statement condemning the operations and saying they are willing to partner in the investigations. Mediheal used to give television sets and cows in Kesses Constituency. They were just selling human organs to go and donate in campaigns in Kesses Constituency. It is very sad that 372 organ transplants have been done. It is very unfortunate. The Ministry of Health must be called out for sanctioning and approving this process. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I know in Kenya we do not have a proper law on how organ harvesting and transplant should be done. It is a wake-up call that anybody who participated in this illegal syndicate of organ transplant and organ harvesting must be brought to book. Some of the young people who sold their kidneys and other organs have now become weak. They cannot do anything, not even participating in conjugal rights. It is unfortunate that this country is becoming like this. I heard Maina Kageni and Mwalimu King’ang’i say this morning at Classic 105 that the economic situation in the country is so sad that some Kenyans might want to sell parts of their body like fingernails and toes. This means there is a deeper economic problem in this country. We must come out and talk about it. I want to call out professional bodies and Ministry of Health to sanction all officials who participated in this syndicate. Kenyans should be careful when they see politicians giving out money without explaining the source of that money. I say this because the same hospitals were used by politicians to get elected as Members of Parliament."
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"content": "I agree that the Teachers Service Commission (TSC) is now the headquarters of corruption and they should be called to order. They were given Kshs1 billion and they only promoted 25,000 teachers. There was also a lot of political patronage. It is said that TSC has left its work of recruitment to other agencies, including politicians and they must be called out. I support those statements."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will begin by supporting the statement by Sen. Onyonka on the promotion exercise that has just been conclude by TSC. I will borrow the words of Sen. Cherarkey that TSC is actually the headquarters of corruption. Notorious officials who I call rogue, are soliciting for resources from teachers who are already in a deplorable state in order for them to get promoted. In the just concluded exercise, we have teachers who have been in the service for over 17 years, but were not promoted. On the other hand, we have teachers who have just served for one year and were promoted. How can one explain that? I will use the words of a trade unionist by the name of Benjamin Burombo. He said that “when I am fighting for African rights, the other hand is busy keeping away Africans who are fighting me.” I know corruption will always fight back, but we will not relent on this issue. This is because teachers deserve support and good remuneration for them to have the motivation to keep offering their services to Kenyans. I call out TSC and mention that some of their officers have actually overstayed in office."
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