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"content": "Oh, I did not hear that."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I said Standing Order No.101. I was just saving you the reading. Under Standing Order No. 101, can we discuss the conduct of an individual without a substantive Motion? Can the Whip be directed to bring a substantive Motion to discuss the conduct of that PS because this is a very serious issue? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "There is an issue of embezzlement. Can you direct the Whip to bring a substantive Motion on the said Principal Secretary for us to discuss? He cannot demand for him to step aside out of the blues. The demand is obsolete if it does not have power given by this House. Can he table a substantive Motion?"
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"content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you have heard the point of order. Would you, please, withdraw your demands around the Principal Secretary and bring before this House, the matter in the proper manner for it to be discussed?"
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will do as directed. I will handle it in the proper manner. For purposes of this institution---"
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"content": " Yes, but first withdraw the demand."
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"content": "Yes, Madam Temporary Speaker, I withdraw the demand until guided by a resolution of the House. Allow me to use this opportunity. There was a time when I was the age of the Senator for Migori County and the nominated Sen. Orwoba, who keeps on screaming from the back. There was a time when I was their age and we learnt from senior politicians in this House to be good legislators."
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"content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, please, do not use unparliamentary language in respect of colleagues."
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"content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will go to my contribution. I will comment on the issue raised by Sen. Onyonka about human organ trafficking. I call upon the Chairperson of the Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board, Prof. Stanley Khainga, who was my classmate from high school all the way through medical school. He should know that the eyes of the country are on him. He, together with the Principal Secretary, Ministry of Health, the Cabinet Secretary for Health and the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration should have gone to Eldoret and closed that thing people are calling a hospital. I saw some so-called Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of that hospital struggle to say that they are a world-class centre of doing kidney transplants. She was actually speaking in broken English. A world-class centre cannot employ people who are illiterate. They should not play around with the children of the poor. I want to see a child of a Cabinet Secretary or Principal Secretary going to donate a kidney for somebody who is unknown to them. In medical ethics, organ donation typically occurs within families. Before such a donation is conducted, all necessary steps, including DNA tests, are carried out. We cannot allow people to be exploited. What a pity. Accepting a payment of Kshs300,000 in exchange for an organ that will profoundly alter your life while others profit millions of shillings from that organ through conmanship, must stop. We must protect the poor. If it is not---"
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"content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you can finalise in 30 seconds."
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