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            "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I respect Sen. (Prof.) Kamar and I wish she told me what she wanted me to do. She has not told me. I am a very serious debater and all I meant is that---"
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            "content": " Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, do you want to clarify what you said?"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, if he does not have a criteria that is laid out, then he should withdraw that. That should not be in our HANSARD."
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            "content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you need to demonstrate that the criteria applicable to a cabinet secretary was not met by the National Assembly or withdraw what you said."
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            "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I am surprised that a teacher of a university can fail to remember that the highest standard of appointing cabinet secretaries---"
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            "content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale---"
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            "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I am now expanding---"
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            "speaker_name": "Sen. Mumma",
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            "content": " No, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale. You just need to explain how the two cabinet secretaries that you made reference to failed to meet the standards that is required of cabinet secretaries."
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            "content": "Okay, Madam Temporary Speaker. I will prove it this way. The standard of a cabinet secretary is specified under the Constitution. They are not only appointed by the President, but they are supposed to undergo rigorous vetting. It is because of what Kenyans saw during the rigorous vetting that we realised--- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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            "content": " Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, the allegation is by you, not by Kenyans. Can you please just go to the point?"
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