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"content": "Next is the Member for Suna West, Hon. Masara. I know you had a similar Bill. Proceed."
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"speaker_name": "Suna West, ODM",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I think our gods are with us because this Parliament is going to pass a Bill that will help too many people. I want this House to remember the late Hon. Laboso Joyce. Hon. Millie assisted me to draft the Bill. She and I are undertaking PhD studies in the same line and we have been talking about this Bill. The Social Protection Bill is very important and I support it. I have worked on the Bill for the last seven years and it is the reason it is in this House today. It was supposed to go to the Third Reading. The beneficiaries of the Social Protection Bill are people who are really in need of our support as leaders. If I may give a brief to those who have not gone through this Bill, in Kenya today, the vulnerable members of society are benefiting. By the time the programme was started, they were being given Ksh2,000. At that time, a dollar was equivalent to Ksh100. Therefore, according to the UN ranking, anybody earning or living below US$2 a day is supposed to be supported. Sometime back, a dollar was equivalent to about Ksh160 but these people were still being given Ksh2,000. I support this Bill but on condition that we merge the two Bills because we do not want the Social Protection Bill to give people tokens. These tokens need to be managed; there needs to be a rationale on how monies are given to our vulnerable people in the society. In Section 2 of the Children Act, the objective of the Act is to cushion all persons against risks and contingencies throughout their life cycle, which is okay. It also seeks to build human capital capability and resilience of all persons and promote their well-being. It does not talk about how it will resonate well with the economic times, that is, when there is fluctuation The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "and recession in the economy of a country. The current Bill does not talk about that. My Bill says that all factors shall be considered each time with regard to what is happening in the economy. Therefore, Hon. Deputy Speaker, this Bill needs to be pushed and concluded together with mine which is at the Third Reading stage. How I wish Parliament, through the Leader of the Majority Party, could push it forward so that whatever is not in my Bill can be added then we merge them and come up with a Bill which is progressive. As it is now, it is static. If it is Ksh2,000, it remains so and if it is Ksh1,000, the same applies."
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"content": "Therefore, Hon. Deputy Speaker, I want to support this legislation but with a rider: that all factors need to be considered. Part of it is not applicable, especially about all persons qualifying for this item. In my Bill, I am suggesting that somebody can be in this bracket over a period of time. When he is out of that time, he is removed from that support. However, this one is talking about all persons."
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"content": "As I support this Bill, I will talk with most of the Members and the leadership of Parliament so that we bring them together and come up with a progressive legislation that will last for a longer period of time, and helping the needy as well. Through the NG-CDF, we have a provision of supporting these vulnerable people. We were paying for them the previous medical scheme which has now transitioned to SHA. When this Bill is implemented, the county government will also be given an opportunity to…"
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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"content": "What is your point of order, Hon. Otiende?"
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I seek your direction under Standing Order 1 on a very simple matter. I am listening to Hon. Masara support the Bill, but he is also asking you to direct that his own Bill be brought forth so that the Bills can be considered together. It sounds to me as if Hon. Masara is not actually supporting this Bill. Procedurally, as I understand it, usually in such circumstances, both Bills would be referred to the relevant committee to rationalise, consolidate, and then present. Therefore, is it in order for Masara to be asking you to refer his own Bill to the House while also supporting a separate Bill? I seek your direction, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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"content": "I will let him ventilate. However, I think, eventually when we come to the Committee of the whole House, he will probably move or suggest amendments to it. That is how I understood it ― that the Bills are similar but there are some aspects that are not incorporated in the current Bill but are in his Bill."
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"content": " Yes."
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