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"content": " Thank you, my senior and Hon. Deputy Speaker. Both of you are learned friends whom I am learning a lot from. I do not want to add or remove anything from what you have said. I will just proceed. Thank you for the support you have given me. I got ambushed because of this Bill. Getting a Bill to reach the Third Reading in this House is a real problem. I started my Bill in the first month of my first term in Parliament. We ended up finishing the 12th Parliament without concluding it. In the 13th Parliament, I have been speaking about this Bill almost every day and week for nearly three years now. Therefore, Hon. Members, to summarise since I know many of you want to contribute to this Bill, this Bill is important. However, mine is more important because it is progressive. If you want to bridge that gap which was there in previous Bill, and which was sponsored in this House by the Late Hon. Joyce Laboso, it is important to note that the Bill was good but it was never implemented. The Ministry took over the Bill and promised Parliament that it was going to enhance it. However, almost 10 years after the death of Hon. Joyce Laboso, it has never done it. That is why my Bill delayed. What I am asking now is that we must legislate on The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Bills which will serve the current generation and generations to come. In that regard, as you have ably advised me, we will have to merge these two Bills in the Third Reading and come up with a Bill which will support our people. Hon. Deputy Speaker, on the issue of NG-CDF as the lifeline of Kenyans, the devolved money which Kenyans are enjoying is from the NG-CDF. In Suna West Constituency alone, I have used the NG-CDF to build four police stations, four Assistant County Commissioners’ (ACC) offices, a County Commissioner’s office, an Anti-Stock Theft Unit (ASTU) office, and 27 new schools—23 primary schools and four new girls' secondary schools. One thousand two hundred people were enjoying the National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF) insurance cover using NG-CDF money and 500 students are fully sponsored in Suna West Constituency. We can kill any other fund but allocation for NG-CDF must be increased and released in a timely manner. The first allocation which the National Treasury needs to do is NG-CDF. Even before paying salary, monies for the NG-CDF should be released because all the 290 constituencies in Kenya are enjoying the fruits of NG-CDF. Hon. Deputy Speaker, having said that, we need to put our priorities right as a country. As a researcher, I know that when you have operated with an item for over 10 years… We need to re-look at our Constitution so that where the drafters erred or where there were gaps, they can be corrected so that Kenyans can enjoy. I am aspiring to become the Governor of Migori County in 2027 but the truth of the matter is that as it stands, the people cannot enjoy the fruits of devolution. Many people, including Dr. Odhiambo Mbai, died but their families and generations are not enjoying the fruits of devolution because of the gaps in the Constitution. You may remember that I was the last Mayor of Migori Municipality. I operated under the Local Government Act (Cap 265)."
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"content": "Let us give him a minute."
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"speaker_name": "Suna West, ODM",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. You know there are very few mayors in this town. His Lordship the Mayor are very few. Right now, I am the only one here. The projects that we started with Local Authority Transfer Fund (LATF), which was only Ksh57 million per municipality, are the ones that the county government is relying on, especially in the health sector. All health centres started by the Municipal Council of Migori are the ones still existing today. Therefore, Hon. Deputy Speaker, as we move on to legislate let us also introspect on what must be done so that Kenyans can enjoy the fruits of paying taxes. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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"content": "Thank you. Let us have the Member for Endebess. Hon. Members, if you want to contribute to this, please press the intervention button."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. I stand to support the Social Protection Bill (National Assembly Bill No.12 of 2025). This is a very crucial Bill. As you are aware, social protection deals with the most vulnerable members of the society and is structured around several pillars, including giving money to the elderly. The Whip of the Majority Party was referring to my neighbour, Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi, as elderly. However, he is not. Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi is a young man. When I was growing up, I saw him engaging in political contests with Noah Wekesa Makalang’ang’a. He is energetic and still going very strong. Therefore, he is not elderly. I am being told by the County Women Representative for Kericho that he recently married a second wife. So, he is still young."
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"content": "In this Bill, through the amendment to the Public Finance Management Act, the Social Accounts Fund (SAF) will be created. This Fund will have a board. Currently, it is under the The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Ministry of Social Protection. As Members of Parliament, we only receive communication indicating that money has been credited to the accounts of the elderly. However, among the elderly, you may find someone aged 70 getting the money, while someone aged 75 does not. These people do not have a way of appealing. This Bill creates an appeal mechanism for people to appeal to the Board. It also creates a board responsible for disbursing the funds. The Board will also have extensions and mechanisms in place. This Bill addresses coordination between the national Government and the county governments and thereby, creating a comprehensive mechanism. We, currently, have a contentious County Allocations Revenue Bill in this House. Although we got devolution as a country, we unfortunately, devolved corruption to the counties. Most of the money allocated to the counties does not reach the ward level. Yesterday, I saw the Controller of Budget, Dr Margaret Nyakang’o, making a very serious allegation. She said that once the county governments have made a requisition for pending bills, they do not use the funds as intended. The funds released are not used to pay for what it has been approved for. Instead, county governments go ahead and reallocate the money. The Controller of Budget is not able to verify whether they are doing what they had requisitioned for. This is a glaring case of corruption. I do not know whom the Ethics and Anti- Corruption Commission (EACC) is waiting for, because this is very glaring corruption, and action needs to be taken. Even the fight over the Road Maintenance Levy is not about building roads for the people. We have seen what the Kenya Urban Roads Authority (KURA) and the Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA) have done. In the constituency, once KeRRA has built a road, counties often come and put up a board claiming the road was done by the county government. The money that was supposed to build that road then disappears. Therefore, the fight is not about building roads, assisting"
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