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"content": " The first Member to speak on this Bill is Hon. Mary Emaase."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I support this Bill, which is very straightforward. It seeks to give the NCPD legal standing so that it becomes a corporate body. Secondly, it seeks to give it a new lease of life after the expiry of 10 years, as stipulated by the Policy or the Act at formation. Issues of population, especially population census, are very emotive. We have cases in the country where even after a population census, some Kenyans in some areas feel that it was not done properly. Therefore, this Bill seeks to give that council a legal status so that it can be properly constituted and staffed with the employees that are required in terms of qualifications so that they do a good job for this country and make a good budget. Once it has been given a legal standing, it will be possible for this House to give it an independent budget. Like I said, the Bill is straightforward. The rest of the clauses as moved by the Mover speak to the functions, duties, administration issues, audit, general provisions and further future transitions of the NCPD."
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"content": " Hon. Gitonga Murugara."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I support this Bill, which seeks to establish the Kenya National Council for Population and The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Development in the country. We have considered the Bill for quite some time and we are now in the final stages of passing it."
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"content": "The country cannot boast of a good population development policy, especially bearing in mind that we began with a Sessional Paper. Thereafter, we had a legal notice, which is a subsidiary legislation. After a lull of over 60 years, we are now coming up with an Act of Parliament, which will regulate policy on population in the country."
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"content": "I recently watched a clip of the late President Mwai Kibaki when he was our Minister for Finance in 1974, where he eloquently articulated the population policy of our country. We had to plan our families during that time. This meant you ensured the number of children you got were commensurate with your income. That is how the country’s family planning policy came to be. I am not sure whether that is still the policy today. Therefore, we need an entity to tell us exactly how we can go about planning our families and the population. Population is a human resource and so, it has to be properly planned. It is an important resource for the country. That is why China is in the first place today and Africa may be leading 50 years from today. We want more people on the continent to boost our production and markets, so that we can compete relatively well with other continents."
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"content": "We are now establishing this council, whose main function will be to plan on issues relating to population. As stated, it is a straightforward Bill. After forming and determining the functions and responsibilities of that entity, we will set up the council. It will be governed by a board of directors consisting of several members, who will be appointed as set out in the Act. The Bill also elaborates on the functions of the board, which is the day-to-day running of the council, so that relevant reports are made and presented. This council will also advise us on the periodical census we have to do every 10 years. One is looming because the last one we had was highly discredited purely because we did not have a policy to govern how it should be done. We hope this is the solution to that problem. We also hope that counties will not dispute their population figures, with some claiming they are deflated and others saying they are inflated. We have the financial provisions purely in accordance with our Constitution. This is the House that allocates and appropriates money. So, we will appropriate money to that council once it is established. Once the monies are appropriated, the board will be responsible. We have made general provisions regarding the council, which make it an offence to act contrary to the Act. We also have a provision to make subsidiary legislation regarding the Act, which will be done by the cabinet secretary responsible for such matters. He or she will have to do this in consultation with the board, which is the governing body of the council. We have several schedules that must be read together with the Act after the transitional provisions, which is the format in which the laws are made. This is a straightforward Bill that we need to pass as a House. I support it and urge that, if there are any issues to be considered during the Third Reading, they should be highlighted quickly so that we can establish the council and start planning for our population census using an agency established by an Act of Parliament."
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