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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. My colleague has raised something fundamental. Earlier, I said that if criminals can walk into a ward and kill a patient at Kenyatta National Hospital, the top hospital in Kenya, one must ask how safe other patients are. It could be your son, wife, brother, or mother. These are some of the fundamental issues addressed in actions expected of healthcare facilities, including things like CCTV, scanners, and enhanced security. As a Committee, we will discuss the matter with the ministry from this point so that we can visit some of these facilities and find out first-hand if security has been enhanced. Thank you."
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Fair enough. Yes, Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I have listened to the Vice-Chairman of the Departmental Committee on Administration and Internal Affairs on the issue of a patient being attacked in a hospital. Even as we look at the security element, we should not overlook the conspiracy issue. I believe there could be some collusion between the workers in the hospital and some of these crooks who attack patients. If we focus purely on the security guards, we might miss that element, and people will continue suffering. The case of KNH is very scary. You should also focus on the issue of insider arrangements. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " The presumption is that when you talk about security, you are looking at the totality of all that. Hon. Vice-Chairman, do you have something to add to that?"
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. Hon. Makali is an economist, not a security person. From a security point of view, when you report a crime, you are actually the first suspect, and the police will start with you. That is how security is enhanced or issues are pursued. For that reason, he has raised a very important point."
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Point of order?"
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"content": "(Hon. Millie Odhiambo-Mabona spoke off the record)"
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"content": " I am also on a point of order. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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