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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. With the benefit of the doubt to the Chairman, these answers come from the Ministry. There is the famous Lake Turkana Wind Power that generates 360 megawatts for the national grid. The reason the community went to Court is exactly what KenGen is doing. There was total denial of participation by the local community, yet KenGen had used almost 150,000 acres of their land. In this particular case, Hon. Joseph Lekuton has never been involved, yet he is a Member of Parliament representing the people. If he is not involved, who are the people being consulted by KenGen? For that reason, I think Hon. Lekuton is right. Let KenGen sit with the Member and the leadership of Marsabit. This is a national resource. Although it will benefit the immediate host community, it will also benefit the larger community of Marsabit. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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"content": " Chairman, I take note of the limitations that you are placed in. Unfortunately, under our current Constitution, Committee The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Chairpersons are doing the work that used to be done by Ministers who were in both the Executive and the Legislature. It puts you on a conveyor belt. You could take more questions from Members, and then we can agree on another date. Clearly, the response is not up to the expectations and standards this House is prepared for. Hon. Bisau"
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, thank you very much for this opportunity. The issue is across the board. The answers always given by the Ministry of Energy and Petroleum are like quick fixes. We are blessed with the sun for half the year, if not more. Why do we not think outside the box to ensure that we utilise natural resources and go the solar way? Secondly, there has been a complete blockade of Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs). If we liberalised the market and allowed more players with better technology, we would have more suppliers competing with existing ones and get power at lower rates. I expect the Departmental Committee on Energy and the ministry to think outside the box. Let us be ahead and appreciate the natural resources we have. Secondly, in support of Hon. Lekuton, Marsabit is the host community. The host community must be part and parcel of originating the supply chain by involving local leaders in the whole process. That is how multinationals have succeeded or failed. Their failure or success starts with respecting the host community. In a nutshell, I am telling the Departmental Committee on Energy Chair that we should think outside the box and ensure we get value for money. At the same time, take advantage of natural resources. We have the sun. Let us get more solar energy. We have the sea. Let us get more wind. Open up the market for more players. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": " Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I agree with you that most Chairs are conveyor belts. Even as we blame them, we have to also bear in mind that they are not able to answer the questions straight. I want to confirm that the Departmental Committee on Energy Chair has been doing a good job. I raised a Question over the last year. He found and sorted it within the two weeks he has been there. Therefore, I congratulate him. The response to the Request for Statement indicates that the project cost is in Euros, yet we are addressing Kenyans. Tell the Principal Secretary that it is good to bracket the amounts in Kenyan Shillings where the original figure is in Euros. Kenyans relate to Kenyan shillings and not Euros. That will help us."
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"content": " That is probably because our exchange rate keeps changing."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, you can always indicate the exchange rate of a currency on particular dates because Kenyans can relate to it. When you say EUR450 million, even those in this House will start calculating if I ask a quick question about how much that money is. They should include the estimated amount in brackets in Kenyan shillings so that Kenyans appreciate the cost."
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"content": " Contracts are in compatible currencies because these are liabilities or debts to pay. In our case, they are either in euros or in dollars. Therefore, it does not matter how much the exchange rate is. At the end of the day, that is our liability as a country."
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