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            "content": "Just a moment, Hon. Gikaria. You will speak. Many of the IPPs charge on capacity. You will make that clear because I am sure you have better information than I. This means you pay them for capacity but not the power they supply. In my opinion, this is one of the things that makes power extremely expensive. As Members of Parliament, that matter came up when we had the retreat in Naivasha. Why is it that you can buy power from Ethiopia for only five cents or Ksh5? How much was it? Was it 0.5 cents or five cents?"
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            "content": " US$5 cents"
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            "content": " This translates to Ksh5 per unit. On the other hand, we pay Ksh80 per unit to IPPs. As a House, this is an area we should delve into. Hon. Gikaria, proceed with what you wanted to raise. Under your watch, we believe you will do a very good job. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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            "content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, you are right. The IPPs charge per capacity. Whether they supply power or not, we have to pay them. This is a conversation that Parliament will have."
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            "content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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            "content": " Hon. Julius Melly is on a point of order."
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            "content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, you have raised a pertinent issue. There is what we call ‘deemed produced power.’ I once sat in the Public Investments Committee on Commercial Affairs and Energy. We were investigating IPPs. As the Chairperson has raised, this House has to look more critically into the money the taxpayer is paying to IPPs, under Public Private Partnerships (PPP), for idle generators or investment that is gathering dust. We are paying through our noses for deemed power. I saw this under the Lake Turkana Wind Power and the idle geothermal power stations, which raise power bills in our homes, industries and other sectors. This makes the cost of living high and the production of goods very expensive. This makes Kenya very uncompetitive as an investment destination in this region. The Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Energy has a lot to do. If we need to grow this economy, we must start with energy, which is a basic need. We must make sure that we make it affordable and accessible to all homes. I support this particular discussion."
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            "content": " Excellent. Chairperson, you have to understand the concept of lifting the veil in law. When we were in Naivasha, I said that you could not locate the camels that were stolen by the owner. These contracts were lopsided because very powerful people in the system had interests. Unless you go back, lift the veil and get to the bottom of the rot, Kenyans will always get a raw deal. Sorry, proceed. It is not a tradition for the Chair to mention some of these things, but I am also a Member of Parliament representing a constituency. Proceed."
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