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"content": "The last joy rider will be Hon. Wamuchomba."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to affirm the case that Hon. Passaris has talked about because Mr James Kariuki is my voter in Githunguri Constituency. I am happy that the Prime Cabinet Secretary is here because this case is attracting a lot of foreign attention. Mr James was arraigned in court and jailed for two years for having been involved in electronic fraud. While serving his jail term in Sharjah, UAE, another crime was committed using his documents. He was arraigned in court again, and detained for the second crime, having not completed the first jail sentence. He is supposed to be out on a bond of Ksh2 million. He has no immigration papers or visa and cannot afford that bond amount. I would like the attention of the Prime Cabinet Secretary. I understand that many of our young people in the UAE went there because of the promise of electronic jobs. However, they ended up being used for international electronic fraud through coercion by some foreigners. Mr James is only one victim who has been arraigned in court, but there are many others languishing in cells. Is the Prime Cabinet Secretary aware of the many young Kenyans in UAE cells? How can we help James and many others who have not been brought to our attention? I happen to have James’ contacts as well as those of his family. I would be happy to assist you with them so that you can sort out this issue."
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"content": "The Prime Cabinet Secretary, you can respond to those questions."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I will start with the question on Mr Barake sitting for his examinations. We have noted it and will use our diplomatic channels The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "to see if they can allow Mr Barake to sit for his examinations while the other matters are being attended to. We will follow up on that immediately through the diplomatic channels. I do not have the specific details on the issue of Mr Barsitei Rerimoi, but I would be happy to get some additional…"
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"content": "You can write to the Committee once you get the details."
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"content": " We can give a more comprehensive response once we get additional information. On the issue raised by Hon. Passaris, which in a way also ties in with the question by the Member for Githunguri. First, I acknowledge with appreciation the compliments for the efforts that the ministry has taken to help those in Myanmar and other areas to be brought back home. As I conclude, Hon. Speaker, with your indulgence, I can help in conveying this message and seeking the help of parliamentarians to campaign with us to educate our young people as they go out there. Mr James Kariuki was arrested in a cybercafé in Dubai, undertaking fraudulent activities together with others, as has been pointed out. Electronically, we must also bear in mind that once your details are violated, it is possible that even if you are here, someone else can use your information. I have had this kind of experience myself, where at one time, my Visa card was used in a country I had not stepped into. I had to officially write to the institution to confirm and give them details of my passport and travel to show that I was not in that country at that time. Once your electronic details are taken, it is possible that someone can continue misusing them for their personal gain. It is important that we remain vigilant about this. Nevertheless, we will take up the matter again with our mission and see what more can be done to assist in enabling Mr Kariuki to have access to legal support, so, that he can deal with his challenges. The issue of the hotlines is well taken care. Regarding Hon. Pareiyo’s question, again, I seek that we get proper details because we have no idea who Monica is. I appeal to the Member to communicate officially with more details to so, that the ministry can have a starting point in the follow-up process of this individual. Hon. Speaker, without casting aspersions on the innocence or guilt of the individuals in this particular Question, I want to state that we have over 1,000 Kenyans incarcerated in different countries for various reasons, some for misdemeanours and others for serious offences. It is not our wish to see these Kenyans languishing in various places. I would like us to acknowledge that it is important to engage in a collective campaign as leaders to convey messages of awareness to the young people. We have a demographic issue here: the young people, who constitute 70 per cent of our population, are the ones who are really travelling. They are not informed about certain consequences. It is our duty, collectively, to start conveying awareness messages to them in all constituencies in the country. They should be cautious because landing into trouble out there can be very painful. You may be isolated or alone and by the time somebody discovers that you are in trouble, it may be too late. This is the message I want to appeal to you so that we can advise our young people accordingly. The second point is a hard truth that also needs to go out. Parliament does not allocate resources for the Government of Kenya to continuously bail out Kenyans who have landed on the wrong side of the law in various countries. This must be appreciated because all resource allocation is done here. Therefore, our people should know that while it is a constitutional obligation to safeguard Kenyans, we must also be realistic and tell them to obey the law. Once the wheels are up, the law in play it is the law of that country. Even in our own country, if somebody is on the wrong side of the law, they face the consequences procedurally. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "We must also alert our people that we cannot have a society where Parliament is indirectly pressured through the Ministry, to provide money to bail out people involved in unlawful activities. Hon. Speaker, through you, I just want to appeal that we become cognisant of this and communicate to Kenyans so that we do not face further embarrassment as we move forward. Thank you."
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"content": "Let us have Question 35/2025 by Hon. Cynthia Muge."
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"content": "(Hon. Raphael Wanjala spoke off the record)"
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