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"content": "Yes, Hon. Wanjala. What is it?"
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, the people of Busia, Kisumu, Homa Bay and Migori who live along Lake Victoria, which is a shared resource, have landed into problems as they go fishing. The boundary is not indicated and our people are arrested by the Ugandans, who keep on extorting them. If they do not have money, they end up being jailed in Uganda. Many of them are still there. However, little is done when we report these cases to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. People even go further to raise money to bail out those who have been jailed. The ministry has not intervened despite this being a shared resource. Our people cross into deeper waters to fish, yet the fish are bred in Kenyan waters, only for them to be arrested. What is the ministry doing to ensure that the boundary is clearly marked? They had already started demarcating the boundaries. Hon. Speaker, at that time, you were the Minister for Foreign Affairs. However, the process stalled somewhere. When are they going to prioritise the demarcation of the Kenya and Uganda boundary in Lake Victoria?"
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"content": "Yes, Prime Cabinet Secretary."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I want to say that the demarcation process is ongoing. We have a department, the Kenya International Boundaries Office (KIBO). Two weeks ago, they briefed me on the progress they are making. Normally, this is a collaborative effort between countries, and both must work in harmony and in tandem. It is an ongoing process. We have covered substantial parts of our boundaries but others remain. The area that the Member mentioned is one of those we are consulting so, that we work together with the Government of Uganda and the Government of Tanzania, when looking at boundaries in the Lake Victoria area. It is not easy. It is a very expensive exercise and I want to assure you that it is ongoing. However, we will continue with our diplomatic efforts to always mitigate and intervene in areas you have mentioned. When I referred to the wrong side of the law, I was not talking about the kind of situation we find ourselves in through fishing. I was talking about the wrong side of the law where some Kenyans are involved in either drug trafficking, human trafficking or similar offences. I really plead with Kenyans, especially those who want to go out of the country, to consult with the ministry so that we can advise them on hotspots in some areas. This is because some of them have landed in these difficult areas simply because they did not consult. Thank you."
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"content": "Let us have Hon. Cynthia Muge."
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"content": "ORDINARY QUESTIONS"
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"content": "Question 035/2025"
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"content": "PLIGHT OF CHILDREN BORN BY KENYAN The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "MOTHERS IN THE KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA"
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"speaker_name": "Nandi County, UDA",
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"content": " Hon. Speaker, I rise to ask the Prime Cabinet Secretary and Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs the following question. Could the Cabinet Secretary: (a) Provide a report detailing the data and statistics of all children born to Kenyan mothers in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and steps being taken by the Ministry of Foreign and Diaspora Affairs to process their exit permits? (b) Clarify whether there are any actions to address the challenges faced by stateless children born to Kenyan mothers, particularly in cases where former employers have confiscated the passport of the mothers and ensure that their rights are fully protected? (c) State the measures put in place to ensure timely processing of the DNA samples collected from Kenyan mothers and their children, including timelines of processing and issuance of exit permits for these children? The Prime Cabinet Secretary should know that this is a very emotive issue. Children who are born to Kenyan mothers living in Saudi Arabia cannot access medical care and education because they are considered not to be eligible in the country."
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