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"content": "accompanied them on that exercise to sensitise the public. Therefore, we appear as if we are being bribed as Senators just to accommodate the NG-CDF. I feel slighted. I also feel bad. As a Senator, I have survived for over 10 years without the Senate Oversight Fund. It is not even a big issue to some of us. However, as an institution, we made a decision that we will operate better and fulfil our constitutional mandate in the presence of this Fund. Should it not concern you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, the way your House is being projected in those public gatherings, given that members of staff of the National Assembly who do presentation of issues before members of the public, who eventually give their views on this issue, are only doing presentations on NG-CDF and it is benefitting them?"
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"content": "Therefore, Mr. Speaker, Sir, I request that you make a ruling or communication to this House on how this matter is going to be treated because we do not want to enter into a contest with our sister House, where when the time comes for this House to also do public participation, we may give the other view of how the NG-CDF should be run without any involvement of Members of the National Assembly or otherwise, but I do not think that is the route we need to go. Mr. Speaker, Sir, you need to guide this House, whether this is a matter that you discussed with your colleague, and how this House can be represented in the coming days. I know they are still going to do this for the next two weeks before a report is returned to this House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg for your indulgence because I know this projects the image of this House and it goes to cast very bad light for Senators who come from those counties where public participation is being done and members of the public imagine that we are just looking for a kickback, so that we can pass the Constitution of Kenya (Amendment) Bill. I thank you."
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"content": " Senate Majority Leader, whatever is happening in the National Assembly, the Senate has not been involved. When the time comes to involve the Senate, we shall be able to respond appropriately. At this juncture, my advice to you, the Senate Majority Leader, is you need to get hold of your counterpart. As Speakers, we do not move any Motions or Bills. It must have been moved by your counterpart in the National Assembly. Kindly get hold of your counterpart to understand exactly what is happening in the National Assembly. As far as I am concerned, the Senate has not been involved. We have not received any communication concerning the process that is taking place across the country. Therefore, I am afraid I may not be able to comment on it now. However, you have a better avenue, as the Senate Majority Leader, to get hold of your counterpart in the National Assembly, to understand. Only then, can you bring a substantive business before the Senate for me to make a ruling."
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"content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is not a simple matter because it is not a normal Bill. It is the first time Parliament is trying to"
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "amend the Constitution. Therefore, we expected that at least there would be guidance from the Office of the Speaker, because there are further technical issues that will arise. Forget about Senate Oversight Fund, but the ability to amend. When we did the National Dialogue Committee (NADCO) Report, which was passed here, having been brought by the Senate Justice, Legal Affairs, and Human Rights Committee (JLHARC) before this House, they said that you jointly must set the rules of how a constitutional amendment is to be done, because what happens in the other House affects what we will eventually be able to do in this House. Therefore, while I take your advice and do what you have guided me to, I would like to humbly request that you equally engage your counterpart, so that more issues beyond the content of the Bill are resolved, particularly on the issue of procedure, because that is something that will affect how we handle constitutional amendment Bills even in the future."
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"content": " Okay."
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"content": "Next Order."
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"content": "PAPERS LAID"
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"content": " The Senate Majority Leader, please proceed."
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