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"content": "Let us begin with Sen. Maureen Tabitha."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. Allow me to make comments on the first Statement by Sen. Ososti of Vihiga County regarding expired drugs in the different counties. As we speak, I am currently serving in the Committee of Health. A few weeks ago, approximately two weeks, we conducted visits to various counties, including Wajir, Marsabit and Mandera. I can confirm that during our inspections, particularly in Mandera County, we encountered expired drugs as well as missing drugs in the records. As I have always stated, my first profession was pharmacy. Having practiced in the field, I am familiar with the regulations set by the Pharmaceutical Board. We also discovered that pharmacists in these pharmacies rely on their personal laptops to input and store data, instead of counties providing a centralized digital system that would allow proper inventory management and stock tracking. We further noted that some hospitals lacked pharmaceutical technicians, let alone pharmacists. This raised serious concerns about the prescription and issuance of medications. I urge the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Pharmacy and Poisons Board, Dr. Fred Siyoi, to take immediate action. He needs to wake up to the reality of the situation and address these pressing issues. All the governors informed us that since implementation of the Social Health Authority (SHA), there has been many newly established pharmacies and private clinics. Most of them are suspected to be owned by the same pharmacists and clinical officers who work for the counties. It is high time that the Pharmacy and Poisons Board (PPB) cracked the whip to ensure that competent and qualified personnel, as far as the pharmaceutical industry is concerned, are the ones dispensing the drugs."
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"content": "It is a total disappointment that drugs are also being stolen. It seems they do not do inspections that they are supposed to do because the places were dusty. In one of the counties, we came across drugs that had expired, but they were still on the shelves. You wonder where the problem is. As the CEOs, they are the people who are mandated with the responsibility to oversight and ensure that systems are also being followed by the staff in the different departments. Sometimes we blame the Executive yet we have people who have been given this role, but they are not doing their job. This is an issue that cuts across most of the counties. There was a Statement by Sen. Chesang concerning health facilities in Trans Nzoia County. As Members of the Committee on Health, we will traverse the country and visit all the counties. Governors should be prepared because we are going to continue inspecting hospitals. It is sad that sometimes when you go to inspect a hospital, you find washrooms in a maternity wing without water. Sometimes you find one bathroom only, which does not even have water. You realise that the taps have run dry and there are even no doors then you wonder whether the Social Health Authority (SHA) is working. All the hospitals informed us that SHA is working. When you ask how much they collected, you realise that it was over Kshs10 or 15 million. How much does a door, a tap or a water tank cost? You look at the conditions of a hospital and it is a disappointment."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "My Committee Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson are not here, but I would like to state that we are going to look at the bottom of issues of health. With my experience as a pharmacist, I am going to make an input. I was able to inspect key drugs. One of them is Diazepam. That drug was missing in all the counties that I visited. It was less as per the cards and records. Such drugs are always under key and lock. When I asked why there was a shortage, most pharmacists did not have answers. To them, it was a surprise. These are some of the issues that we are going to get to the bottom of. There was also another Statement raised by Sen. Chesang regarding revenue generating streams in Trans Nzoia County. As Members of the Committee on Finance and Budget, when it comes to the issue of revenue collection, we are still talking to the National Treasury to speed up the process. There is a uniform system that is supposed to ensure that counties maximize on their own-source revenues. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with those remarks, I thank you."
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"content": " Next is Sen. Nyamu."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would like to comment on the Statement by Sen. Osotsi regarding the presence of expired medication in our public hospitals. The issue of having expired medicines in our public hospitals is a significant one because it has continued to be persist. The Auditor-General keeps raising it and flagging the presence of expired medication in our public hospitals. That means financial wastage because medication cost a lot of money, which is released by the exchequer. That also puts the safety of patients to question because you cannot guarantee that a patient in such a facility will not encounter expired drugs. Since such drugs also have to be disposed of, it poses environmental issues such as pollution. The presence of expired medication in our hospitals also points at the low quality and reduced quality of healthcare in a particular facility. Why does that happen and why do we keep on having the issue of expired medication in our public hospitals? One reason is a poor inventory system. We may have oversupply of a certain drug while other drugs are in shortage. That is an oxymoron! On the ground, Kenyans complain every day that despite visiting health facilities, there are no drugs. They have to get prescriptions to go and buy drugs outside the hospitals. That brings me to a key point. Pharmacists in public hospitals prefer prescribing drugs to patients, so that they go and buy them from outside because they run those pharmacies. I want to laud the County Government of Mombasa. Recently they declared that they will no longer renew licenses of pharmacists who operate pharmacies near public hospitals. I urge other county governments to follow suit by enforcing such a directive. We do not have proper storage facilities in some hospitals. I have heard that Members of the Committee on Health are going to go around the whole country with the aim of tackling the issue of expired drugs in our public hospitals. I urge them that those hospitals should not only be reprimanded, but they should also be facilitated with proper storage space and facilities. I suggest that we digitize this space. We should have an inventory that can forecast expiry of drugs."
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"content": "The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "We are fond of getting medical donations. Some donations do not align with what is needed on the ground. We do not have to take everything we are given in form of medical donations because we do not even use some of them as a country. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I also want to comment on the Statement by Sen. Sifuna regarding the late Pope Francis. I am not a Catholic, but Pope Francis is one of the popes who caught my attention because of the many stands he took. He was open and outspoken about global affairs. He spoke about the war in Gaza. He was also open about the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer (LGBTQ) movement. Just because I admired how he was outspoken does not mean that I support the LGBTQ or questioning, intersex, asexual, and more LGBTQ+ movement. My stand and preference is out there. As we mourn the Pope, we have seen that there are proposed African Popes to take over from him. I do not know why Sen. (Dr.) Boni Khalwale is laughing, it may sound far- fetched, but at least for the first time, we have a possibility of a black Pope. It is a huge step in the right direction. Thank you."
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