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"content": "for us to be sensitized on what is happening. We can then deliberate in the"
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"content": "before we debate this matter. That will be very helpful to us. They keep saying we are nominated, but we would like to learn about the revenue formula and the revision. When we come back to this House next time, which we are, we can then stand up and speak as ranking members. I am requesting that we have a kamukunji outside the Chamber. After that, we can come and deliberate on the matter. Thank you. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I walked in when Sen. Cherarkey was making a passionate appeal for time out on this Motion by Sen. Ali Roba. The truth is that this is perhaps one of the most important engagements of the Senate in its five years. This is because it will determine the monies that will be shared among counties for the next five years. In fact, I implore the Speaker and the Chairperson of the Committee to consider a retreat that can even be within Nairobi. It should be a real retreat. A kamukunji would take two or three hours and that will not be enough. We need to discuss this matter and only come here when we have already built consensus. We will only come here to process the business and come up with a way forward for everyone."
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"content": "One of the most disturbing things about a formula for sharing revenue is that it may get to a point that one county, unfortunately, may have to not gain as much as other counties. We actually need to walk that journey with every Senator for them to know why they are getting less than what the others are getting. A retreat will be important to build consensus on this matter. I thank you."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, let us make progress in this particular matter. I agree that this is an extremely weighty matter. We should, therefore, put every effort to ensure that we avoid the ugly scenes witnessed during the passage of the formula that is now under implementation. I have consulted with the Chairperson of the Committee on Budget and Finance and we have agreed that this Motion will be moved on the 22nd May, 2025. That gives us roughly two weeks. Within those two weeks, we do not need a kamukunji or a retreat. You should read the document and consult amongst yourselves. If you find difficulties amongst yourselves and you need the Speaker and the secretariat to bring you together for purposes of hammering a certain consensus, then we will be available. This Motion will be moved on 22nd May, 2025. The documents will be made available today, both in soft and in hard copy."
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"content": "Hon. Senators, we shall now resume the normal flow of today's business. I will call Sen. Okiya Omtatah, whose Statement had been dropped because he was not in the House when it was called out. However, he has explained his absence to the satisfaction of the Chair. I will now allow him to proceed with his Statement. Thereafter, we will move to comments."
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