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"content": "The Floor is open for debate. Senator for Nandi County, you may proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I want to thank Sen. Karungo Thang’wa, the miracle Senator from Kiambu County, for this proposal. I am aware there is ongoing public participation by Members of the National Assembly on the importance The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "of entrenching the NGAAF and the Senate Oversight Fund. The bait that public participation is being used is that if NG-CDF or NGAAF is entrenched, then bursaries will be available. I agree with the prayers that we need to consolidate these bursaries and make education free for all. Bursaries have been reduced to tokenism. If you support an MCA, governor, a Member of the National Assembly or a Woman Representative, you are given a bursary. Why is it that despite an amount of Kshs656 billion being allocated to education, we still have many children who cannot access education in this country? Those are the hard questions that we must ask ourselves. That is why it is important that we consolidate all bursaries, direct all national Government administration officials to ensure a 100 per cent transition rate for children in primary and secondary schools; now that the Competency Based Curriculum (CBC) has been changed to Competency Based Education (CBE), so that everybody can access education in this country. This issue of bursary has been reduced and weaponized as a campaign political tool which Members of the National Assembly, NGAAF and governors are using. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not know whether during your era and that of Sen. Ali Roba, whether it was possible to use bursary as one of the key development achievements. While I agree human development capital is very critical, it should not be the only yardstick that the members of the Council of Governors (CoG), the Members of the National Assembly and the NGAAF use. In my own opinion, I am surprised there is public participation to entrench it. This is making education costly. We must agree that the planners--- Every day, every function I go to in Nandi County, I must meet one or two parents or a number who want support for education in terms of payment of school fees. Where did we go wrong? The silver bullet in all this is to consolidate the entire bursary fund, make education free and compulsory for all Kenyans, so that it becomes easy. That is why I saw some people saying the Senate needs oversight. Then we might end up being paid a representation fund, a legislation fund, and an oversight fund. I want to challenge the Members of the National Assembly because I have seen a commentary by one of the legal minds. I was sitting with one of the senior legal minds today during the power lunch break. The questions that Kenyans are asking: Why would you want to oversight yourself? “Mganga hajigangi.” Allow the indulgence so that I can drive the point home. Even in my local language and sorry for mixing both languages, it is “Kinyozi hajinyoi.”; “A barber cannot shave his own head.” So, I am challenging the Members of the National Assembly that if you want to manage funds, run for these two offices. You either run for President or run for governor. Why do you want to have your cake and eat it? As a Senate, there is no day we have said- -- We say we want the Senate Oversight Fund. In my own opinion, that fund should be given to the counties or the President, and then we do our work as oversight. For the first time, I am in support of Baba Raila Amolo Odinga because the work of Members of the National Assembly and the Senate is to legislate, oversight, represent and budget making. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I do not know, but you need to check whether Sen. Eddy has both shoes on because the last time there were people without shoes in Migori County. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Let us be honest. If you want to manage funds, if you want to do development, then run for offices that have such funds. Why trouble Kenyans with the constitutional amendment? This is not the right time to amend the Constitution as a country."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, we must be careful in this country about what we wish for. If we want a hybrid or pre-presidential system, why would we want to give bursaries as politicians? Just to allow political patronage? To enslave our children? To fight and ensure our children are given? You will hear someone in the small towns and villages saying: “I did not get a bursary because I did not vote for Mheshimiwa”. We must be honest that we must consolidate this issue of bursaries. I wish and I pray at the end of this debate on this consolidation, that the Committee on Education led by Sen. Betty Montet and Members who are in this House will come up with an amendment to the Basic Education Act or the education laws that we have in this country and consolidate all the bursaries, bring quantification. I am happy the miracle Senator is here - I do not know whether he is still a miracle or not - so we can consolidate all the bursaries and account for Kshs656 billion. The political formation he is in nowadays is no longer miraculous. Under Article 53 of the Constitution of Kenya, we must ensure that these young people enjoy the right to education. A number of these young people even at the Kenya Medical Training Colleges (KMTCs) also need bursary. How do we do it? Let us make education free and compulsory from preschool all the way to the university and colleges, so that we stop having the Higher Education Loans Board (HELB). We ought to collapse HELB, so that we do not bring discrimination as envisaged in the Constitution of Kenya. Students in public universities are given higher education loans, which is taxpayers’ money, including all Kenyans. Yet, children in private universities are not. It casts aspersions and a shadow of discrimination in our society. Madam Temporary Speaker, the issue of capitation is prayer number three. We need to also be told because as we talk, the Kenya Secondary School Heads Association (KESSHA) has been complaining of delayed capitation that is being given to either primary or secondary schools across the country. I find it untidy that after every opening of schools, you hear KESSHA, the Kenya Primary School Heads Association, Kenya National Union of Teachers (KNUT) and Kenya Union of Post Primary Teachers (KUPPET) complaining that capitation is yet to be released. The other day was removal of hardship allowances in some areas. That was the worst. Hardship allowances should be the motivating factor for all public servants and also the teachers in our country, especially if you work in places such as Mandera. We have had opportunity of going there, where at the airstrip has virtually no landing place. There is no electricity, but only three dysfunctional generators. I am told it is being switched on and off like--- The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "We must agree that hardship allowance to civil servants and teachers is very critical. For example, in Nandi, I have like four or five wards, including Terik, Chepteruai, Kapchorwa, Soba Songo and large parts of Tinderet. Due to the terrain and challenges that are unique to those regions, they should at least be given what we call hardship allowances. There are other areas such as Kilifi where the poverty index is very high. Also in Kerio Valley where insecurity is rampant. I know Professor Kamari is well-versed with. All these places, they need a motivating factor called hardship allowance. I do not think there was lack of wisdom with the formulators of the Public Service Commission (PSC) that we should have hardship allowances. In conclusion, Madam Temporary Speaker, so that I can give colleagues opportunity to canvass and deliberate on this matter, my clarion call to the Government, lawmakers, including nyumba kumi elders and all of us is that we consolidate bursaries. I am happy the Mukasa and the Kokwet elders, and the village elders will now be given a token of appreciation, courtesy of President William Ruto's Government. I was telling some people over the weekend when we were burying former senior assistant Birgen chief in Egwen in Mugunya, that if you had married a village elder and you did not have hope, there is hope now because that village elder will have salary. So if you had left your husband because he was a village elder, you should be motivated to go back. My village is in Kapkeben, somewhere in Mosoriat. My local assistant chief is called Joshua Chirchir. We should now ask the elders and Assistant Chiefs why children are not going to school yet, education is free and compulsory. We should then ensure money is provided to the school. I am happy this is the conversation we are having in this country. Let us not use politicians to give tokens in terms of bursary. We will create a big divide. Education will be expensive, unaffordable and inaccessible yet, under Articles 53 and 55 of the Constitution of Kenya, it envisages good quality education, affordable, accessible and valuable. We want to see more doctors, lawyers and other professionals such as Dr. Bony Khalwale. Sen. Thang’wa, the mover of the Motion, should direct that there should be a special audit on the bursary that is being given. My governor is notorious. He has changed Nandi from being source of champions to source of corruption, where they write cheques that bounce and some to places that do not exist. They exist up there. Madam Temporary Speaker, let us do a special audit and be told how many people use this money. I think the mover of the Motion you should amend--- You should stop listening to Sen. Orwoba. I know she is still excited about what happened in Kisii. You should ask hon. Moses Wetangula. The people you see in rallies and voters are two different things."
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"content": " Sen. Chimera, what is your point of order?"
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