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"content": " No, it is not rigging. Sen. Cherarkey needs to know that there is something called ranking Members in the House. I have tried to scan the breadth and the length, save for Sen. (Prof.) Kamar, who probably is still acquainting herself because she just came in, there is no other ranking Member who wants to speak ahead of me, so that is why you granted me the opportunity. However, if the Professor wanted, I would yield the Floor without much complaint because of many other reasons, some cultural. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this is a very important Bill. The Creative Economy Support Bill, discussions about how to support our creatives and people that work in the creative sector. Part of the challenge that you pick up across the length and breadth of this country is the desire to ensure that the various sectors perform optimally; agriculture, finance, this or the other. I want to appreciate because I know that since the coming into place of this administration, almost every sector of the economy, we know where it was in 2022 and where it is right now. If there is a sector that I still feel the Government of the day needs to focus its attention on, it is the creative economy. This Bill by Sen. Eddy Oketch is one of the many ways through which we can ensure that we provide the necessary support to the people that work in the creative economy, so that they earn their bread and butter, they thrive, they excel, and they even bring revenue to this country, because that is how a sector grows. It starts from bread and butter, ensuring that those that are engaged in that particular activity are able to feed themselves, feed their families and those around them. Before you know it, a sector blossoms to the point that you are able to export it and earn the much-needed foreign exchange by whatever means. Perhaps, many people will wonder how we will support to the creative economy earn foreign exchange to the country? What they do not appreciate, is that by nurturing talent in this sector, we are able to produce men and women who are able to go to the different parts of the world earn and bring whatever they have earned from those corners of the world, back home here, repatriated in the form of investments back at home. Therefore, it is not a waste of resources when we invest in the creative economy, this is where the future is. Just like in the digital space where Kenya is a continental leader and a respected member of the global community in terms of our contribution to the digital and financial sector because of innovations that come out of this country, this is a sector that lags behind. It is not because of lack of talent. We know that there are many talented people in this country who can compete with the very best, whichever spectre of the creative economy that you can think of, from filmmakers to actors and actresses, various thespians, musicians, and producers of different things. What they lack the most is a channel through which they can access support to grow to the next level. The second and most important thing that they lack is a conducive environment for which they can ply their trade. Remember about two or three years ago, how you would find young people being arrested in this town just for practicing photography. It The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "had to become such a big discussion until many leaders became aware of the young people that are earning their bread and butter from photography and filmmaking, to being allowed now to practice without any hindrance. Therefore, provision of a conducive environment for those in the creative sector is one important aspect; those two things. I know Sen. Eddy has worked on this Bill with the help of a common friend of ours, Mr. Ezekiel Onyango, a former schoolmate of mine, a friend to Sen. Eddy and currently a PhD student at the University of Manchester, studying about the creative economy and the contribution that this sector can make to our GDP. Part of the contribution he has given you are those two extremely important ingredients, which, if we were to get right as a country, and that is what is being done in this particular Bill, providing the platform and setting a conducive environment. Conducive environment means sometimes even just Government getting out of the way. It is not just about whatever you require that the Government needs to do this or the other. Just do not stop us from doing what we want to do. That is being provided for here in the Second Part of the Bill, where Sen. Eddy speaks about the creation of this guild, what he is referring to in the Bill as a title, which I do not want to miss. It is the Creative Industry Guild in Part Two of the Bill, where it is an advisory board that guides on the creation of regulations and policies that help this particular industry thrive. There are many parts of this world, that today their economy is anchored actually on the creative economy. There are parts and cities that are known for nothing else other than the contribution of either music, film and so on and so forth, many things that you can think of as production, including painting and any contribution of a creative mind. It is possible to have so many people attracted to the policies of that particular part of the country, the same way you find, say, budding techpreneurs, troop to the Silicon Valley because of the presence of other creatives, mentorship, financing opportunities and many other things that make an environment conducive enough for somebody to want to work from there. It is possible to turn this country to be the maker of the creative industry in Africa. That particular friend that Sen. Eddy and I share has written tonnes and tonnes of papers on how Kenya can be the next frontier for the creative economy. It is my sincere hope, Sen. Eddy, that with the passage of this Bill and the creation of this creative industry, such men and women with that level of competence can help to share their ideas and dreams on how Kenya can tap on this industry, so that we take it to the next level. Part of the challenges that all global economies face is over-reliance on certain traditional industries. You know, for a fact, for example, where you and I come from, we have over-relied on tea. It is until we are able to point our young people who do not want to wake up at 5.00 a.m. to go to the tea farms and create for them a conducive environment in the creative economy space, that they see this as an avenue through which they can express their talent and earn a living and secure a future for themselves and future generations, because it is possible. There are many people that we know. During the last visit of the President to the USA, I accompanied him and we visited the Tyler Perry Studios. When you see the level The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "of investment that has been put in such a facility, then you understand and begin to appreciate that we are joking here by squeezing our creatives at the National Theatre, a very small, crowded, neglected space and very little incentives to them. I hope that when this guild is created, the first duty will be to advise the Cabinet Secretary on the review of the formulation of policies and legislation relating to the creative industry. I do not think this is something that we even need to wait for this law to go through the rostrums of Parliament before we can do some of these things. There are many parts of the world, Indonesia, for example, that have appreciated the contribution of the creative space into the economy. They have set up an entire ministry that just looks out after this. People sit and they analyse the much they have earned from tourism. They continue investing in that sector so that it gives us this much. They know it has an optimal level beyond which there is nothing you can do. They know we earn this from the agriculture sector or even manufacturing. People sit down and crack their minds on what other sectors can thrive and make our economy work better. There is no other that presents a low-hanging fruit than the creative economy. I urge colleague Members to take the time to read and support this Bill. Let us expedite it so that we are able to give to the citizens of this Republic a piece of legislation that enables them to ply their trade and flourish, the way other parts of the world have allowed their citizens to exercise their talent, earn from it and employ others. One successful individual can employ tens of others just by the very act that we have supported them and allowed them to do many of these things. There are people who continue to troop to this country because of the beauty and the talent that exists in this Republic to make their contribution and earn a living out of this. Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, it is my sincere hope that we shall come up with policies, Sen. Eddy, that will protect their talent, intellectual property, and contribution. It was interesting listening to Sen. Mungatana complain about what happened during that event in Tana River. I want to remind him also that he has failed because a few months ago, I asked him to bring to me the singer of that very famous United Democratic Alliance (UDA) Party national anthem from 2022. I know that they came from Tana River. I had asked because I saw a clip of them complaining somewhere. I had challenged you, Sen. Mungatana, that you bring them to my office, but up to now, you have not done it."
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"content": " What is your point of information, Sen. Mungatana?"
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, the discussion we had with my good friend, the Leader of Majority, was that we should in fact look for the young lady and do something for her, which we did. It was not to bring her to you, but if you want, we can make her available to you."
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Speaker Sir, that a very dangerous statement to be left on record, where he says he wants to bring her to me. That was not the request. I thought, first of all, that song was sung by a team, a lady and a gentleman, not a lady alone. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Sen. Mungatana, we had requested that given the contribution that that team from Tana River made to the UDA party, it would be proper for them to be properly recognized. Probably, if there was a misunderstanding, then I want to make it now properly to you, Sen. Mungatana, that those young people need to be recognized by our Party. Between you and I, we can get them to the party headquarters and have them listened to on the exact kind of reward they expected from us when we formed government. The point I was trying to make overall is the reward for the works that creators make. There are many other people that make this kind of contribution. I know, for example, there is a young lady from my county that sang a very important anthem that propelled Jubilee to power in 2017 across the Rift Valley. We visited her a few weeks ago, and she kept on saying that the challenge with especially the political class is that there is no good value for the content that they create. That lady, for example, sang to me back in 2015, my first campaign song. I have since had other songs done to me by other musicians, but unfortunately, this still remains to be the favourite. How do we compensate for intellectual property such as that? We do not have sufficient legislation or a premium. Many of them, due to poverty, sing sometimes for as cheap as Kshs10,000 or Kshs20,000, and it propels a brand, either of an individual, a company or product, yet, they do not get sufficient reward. This Guild needs to set the policies and standards of how that such people can be compensated. I know there are other institutions that do that job, but there is need for modern thinking, Sen. Eddy. I hope that the Guild will be able to facilitate the creative artist in doing those kinds of things. I congratulate Sen. Eddy for his industry and ensuring that he remembers a key segment of our society. We will be serving well when we succeed to pass this Bill, get it through our colleagues in the National Assembly, get their input and funding, and move it on to the next level. I support."
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