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"speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
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"content": "The issue of remittances to the SACCOs and other cooperatives especially from the employers has been a challenge that has mainly affected county government and universities. Those are the two major culprits within the Government ecosystem that have frequently defaulted on remittances of members’ deductions."
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"content": "As a Ministry, we have very limited powers. The only powers that we have are for the Commissioner for Co-operatives to write to them pleading for them to make contributions. He also has the power to contact the banks for those defaulting to make sure that they remit their deductions. Sometimes banks are also tied because if there are no remittances, then the banks have no money in the accounts to make the remittances. We now have the Cooperatives Bill before the Senate. In that Bill, we have outlined what we need to institute, so that members’ remittances reach the SACCOs as required. We even involve the Controller of Budget (CoB) and the National Treasury in case of remittances for the county governments."
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"content": " Sen. Karen, you will have an opportunity to ask two questions. Sen. Joyce Korir, you will also have an opportunity to ask two supplementary questions before I give your colleagues the floor. We shall start with Sen. Joyce Korir."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I do not have any Supplementary Question, but just to thank the Hon. Cabinet Secretary (CS), for the elaborate answer that he has given. He has raised a number of issues that answer the question that was lingering in my mind. Thank you and feel most welcome."
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"content": " Sen. Karen, the floor is yours."
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"content": "Hon. Cabinet Secretary, you have indicated that 25 million Kenyans, translating to 48 per cent of Kenyans, who have borrowed from the Hustler Fund are women. I would want more detailed information on those loans because we know from the onset, Kenyans used to borrow money from the Hustler Fund just to test if it works. A lot of these loans are Kshs500, perhaps amounts that do not translate to the kind of empowerment that we are looking for with regard to the women. It would be good if we can have the details on the nature of these loans. Is it group or individual loans? What are the amounts that women are accessing through the Hustler Fund? On the Kenya Industrial Estates (KIE), you have elaborated well what you are doing to empower women. You have given a lot of detail on the women. However, you have not given any or similar breakdown that you have given on women and the youth. As you are aware, at the moment, one of the biggest problems we have in this country is unemployment of the youth. These are some of the channels where youth can be useful through various economic activities. Could the Cabinet Secretary give a similar breakdown on the efforts made towards the youth by Kenya Industrial Estates (KIE)? Thank you."
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"content": " Hon. CS, you may proceed to respond. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. On the first one, where I said that the majority of borrowers are women, taking up 48 per cent, as you are aware, the Hustler Funds is a digital platform operated system. These are the figures we get on a daily basis. Mr. Speaker, Sir, if I was to bring a detailed list of the 48 per cent, maybe you will not be able to carry it because this is a digital system. However, I am willing, if the Member can contact me, so that I take her through how we get these figures. We have Safaricom Limited as a service provider that gives us this information on a daily basis. If it means printing it to prove that---"
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"content": " Honorable CS, is this information contained in the Ministry's website?"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Wycliffe Oparanya",
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"content": " Yes, it is contained in the website. It is even on my phone now and I can pass it to her because we get it on a daily basis. I can avail that, and even put you to be part of the WhatsApp group, so that you can get it on a daily basis. Secondly, on the issue of the youth, the Question that was asked by Hon. Korir was actually on women. I just mentioned the youth, by the way, to show that we are dealing with all vulnerable groups. However, if she needs a detailed response on the youth, that is now another Question, which I can deal with, later."
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