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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I take this opportunity to thank and agree on the Statement sought by Sen. Agnes Kavindu from Machakos County. I agree on the issues raised in this Statement, that we need to think about what is happening in our counties, especially in the county assemblies during this time where we have county assemblies approving budgets for the county executives and the counties. This is a big threat to the county governments and this Statement has come at the right time when we want to seek the indulgence of the Committee on Devolution and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Intergovernmental Relations for them to look at these issues critically. Maybe, there are legislative gaps and these are the things bringing wrangles between the county governments and the county assemblies. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we had the same problem yesterday when we had the Motion on Nyamira County with the same issues that are coming up in our county assemblies. These are issues we are not understanding because there are laws, systems and agencies of the Government that need to protect devolution. This Statement again has come at the right time when we have issues that are threatening devolution in our county assemblies and in the Senate as well. Remember, the functions of the county governments are being threatened, but this is devolution being threatened. We need to look at it further than how we are looking at it today and how the Senate is also handling it. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have many issues that need to be looked at because devolution is also being threatened by even the national Government on roads, health and education. There are many problems that are coming up whose functions have been devolved. This House needs to look at these issues critically, especially the ones that affect devolution. The same issues are the ones arising from the county assemblies, county governments and this House as well. This is a matter of concern and we should look at it."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for the opportunity to speak to the Statement by Sen. Hamida on the matter of unwanted pregnancies due to ineffective contraception. I have previously spoken on the issue of adolescent health in this country. I have indicated that as a country, the greatest problem we have is the neglect of adolescent boys and girls. The 1.4 million unintended pregnancies are as a result of negligence that we have. I have previously given statistics around teen pregnancies in this country. As at now, between 2016 and now, we have had nearly 1.6 million teen pregnancies in these countries. Those are young girls who are defiled and who engaged in sexual activity and got pregnant, but this is a record of those who got pregnant and attempted to get rid of those pregnancies. I wish we could look at this issue not in a silo manner, but as a matter of killing our future. Even as we look at the issue of abortion, the solution here is not providing family planning. The issue here is what programmes we are putting in place to safeguard the livelihoods of our children. I would like to tell you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, that out of those who are pregnant, we have 150 who are aged 10 and 14 years. Those are going to be mothers and yet, in the Ministry of Education, we have no programme on sex education. This information and more information that keeps coming around pregnancies and abortions is a call upon to us to stop continuing with the policy of no-sex education in schools. We need sex education in schools. We need our girls and boys to be told the consequences of casual sex. We need our girls and boys to be told that we have offences like defilement and that someone having sex under the age of 18 is criminal in this country. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have taken an interest in the justice sector to find out whether we have one million prosecutions of the girls who have been defiled because those are the pregnancies we have. We do not even have a hundred. What does that show? It shows that we are not interested in implementing our own law of protecting our children. For this girl who is 14 and is pregnant, she has just been told, “give birth and go back to school or go back to school with your child.” Mr. Speaker, Sir, this is the biggest problem that we have. If you look at the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) statistics, the highest transmission rates are amongst the 14 and 19 years old; the same cohort. However, we are moving on thinking the biggest problem here is anything else. In my view, the biggest problem in Kenya is the neglect of the adolescent boys and girls. This is only showing what is happening. How did we end up with 1.4 million abortions? It is because our health system is not designed to receive adolescents on their own and take care of them. So, what happens? We have, especially in Nairobi, a parallel illegal health system on the streets; where girls ae getting fake family planning and fake P2 pills. Many of them will be hurt and they will have infertility problems. Who is peddling this? We have enough fake doctors within our systems purporting to manage adolescence. This happens because our health systems are not friendly to adolescent services and we have not agreed to have counselors and people who can speak to children about sex education within our schools. We think that speaking to girls in our churches is training them to do the wrong thing. No. What we are doing is that we are killing our future. This is not just about the girls. The boys do not get pregnant, but many of them are being defiled. They do not speak because our culture has tabooed us from discussing sex. I want us to go and find out what is happening from your nephews. You can even do it for fun. You will find out that what is happening out there is bad."
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"content": "The biggest crisis as far as I am concerned is that Kenya has dropped the ball when it comes to the care of its adolescents. These results will keep coming here one by one. We talk about how many pregnancies, how many have not gone back to school, how many have procured abortions yet we are not being told of the number of girls who died while procuring abortion. This is a serious issue. I hope that this Senate, which I call a courageous Senate, can have the courage to face religious leaders and top Government officials one of these days and tell them that adolescents are the future of this nation. This Senate should tell them that we must put in place the policies that take care of them. Gender Based Violence (GBV) for both boys and girls is all over, yet it is not a big deal for us hence the reason we are not discussing it. I am calling all of us to order. We should start looking at our own statistics. I want Sen. Faki, Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, Sen. Cheruiyot to come back next time and tell us how the number of girls, under 18, in Kakamega County, got pregnant last year. Can each of them come and give us those statistics?"
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