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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the Creative Economy Support Bill because it is timely. In this country, due to high rate of unemployment, many youth have become creative to a point where they pay for their school fees. Most of our youth have become content creators."
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"content": "For those of us who wake up very early in the morning at around 3.00 a.m. because we have no sleep, sometimes we try to figure out what is new in the creative industry on TikTok . The biggest problem I see in this industry is that we have overregulated it. I support this Bill that is proposed by Sen. Eddy, but I think we need to allow the creative industry to self-regulate. When we allow them to self-regulate, they can make sense of what they do."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I have travelled around the world. Recently, I was in a country where very few people will dare go because there are very few flights that fly to that country. In fact, from Dubai, there are only two aircrafts that fly to Belarus. The most interesting thing is that the people of Belarus believe in different political ideologies such that they are treated differently from those who believe in the ideologies of the NATO-friendly countries. That is a Russian-friendly country. One thing that moved me is the creative industry in that country. I was shocked that in the eve of a presidential election, the electoral commission organizes activities which are sponsored by the creative industry in Minsk, the Capital city of Belarus. They organize dances, and people go there to dance. They are reminded of their history and the challenges of where they have come from. In most parts of that country, the economy was decimated during the Second World War. Everything was brought down. There was nothing in that country and they had to rebuild everything. So, when you invest in the creative sector, you encourage people not to be idle, but rather to come up with activities. Yesterday, I got a text message from a young Maasai young girl, who calls herself DJ Queen, saying, “please, Senator, can you please help me to perform at the upcoming Madaraka Day celebration?” I know it is will be held in Homa Bay County, and I will reach out to the Presidential Units to ask whether they can allow this young girl to showcase her talent. She makes her living by singing. I know so many young girls who are looking for jobs, but they cannot get. However, when these young girls look for jobs and cannot get them, they get into the creative sector. I have a young girl called Fabi Lekanaiya, who also does the same thing. What is the best way for us to support these young girls for them to have money? Some of these young ones come from very poor economies. Is it over-regulating? Is it by setting up an advisory board or a corporate to manage them? My view is that would be the wrong way to go. I am going to have a conversation with my good friend, Sen. Eddy. That, we should not over-regulate or set up a board, whose most members are not even from the creative sector, to govern the creative industry economy. We should allow this creative industry around all the 47 counties to self-regulate. We should allow county governments to play a critical role. I long for the days when we used to have a national choir. When we were growing up and in primary school, when President Moi would come on Madaraka or Jamhuri Day, there used to be a national choir, which would come to our schools. All of us will sing The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "and participate. I long for the time when county governments will invest in their own creative industries. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I lived in a small town called Concord in Massachusetts. Every Christmas holiday, you would find all the fine artists coming to perform. The little town of Concord and the businesses would sponsor the young people to be able to do their performance. This is where we want to go. Towns have bands. People are paid to be able to be in that band. If we over-regulate and set up a board that sits in Nairobi to regulate the creative industry, we are killing this industry. In my opinion, since we are a country that is struggling to create jobs and look for jobs for these people, let us allow them to use the internet for free. Let us not tax the internet whatsoever. Let us allow them to build their content, so that they can use TikTok, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. I come from a school of thought that believes that we should never tax something which is free. The internet connects us. I tell my staff that, your network is your net worth. So, this creative industry should be looking at the networks that they have out there. Which networks are these? They have people who will sit down and go through Facebook. Let us find a way that these companies, which are formed in foreign countries, can support children here pay for their school fees. I have almost two million followers on X, and from time to time, I get a small amount of money from X. It is small, yet it is taxed. I wish it was not taxed, because I could probably donate to someone else to support them. So, the most important thing is that we need to think about this Bill. I want to have a sit down with Sen. Eddy, so that during the Committee of the Whole, we can try and see how we can develop a piece of legislation that will not make it difficult for content creators to make money. It will make it easier for them to benefit. I wish we could have one thing in this country which is free. You cannot create jobs for everybody. Allow them to go make money. Let them use their knowledge and make money. Secondly, I do not fully support the Bill. I partially support it. Let me correct myself, because Sen. Eddy is one of the most intelligent young Senators that you will find here. I would like to talk about establishment of this Creative Industry Guild. Why should that Guild be advising the Cabinet Secretary? What is the role of a Cabinet Secretary in my creativity? There is absolutely no role. This Guild should be looking at how to engage the private sector, for the private sector to invest in the young content creators and in the sector. For instance, if it is for me advertising the milk that I produce, I look for a young Maasai, Giriama or Somali content creator to advertise that milk. The Guild should be talking to the private sector, not the Cabinet Secretary. These authorities are created every time and you are giving these Cabinet Secretaries so much power, yet when you invite these Cabinet Secretaries to your committees, they come unprepared, looking clueless. For instance, today, I was perplexed. We had the Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development, coming to the Senate Standing Committee on Land and Natural Resources to respond to approximately 20 Statements and Petitions, which were requested and piling in our office. However, when she came, she was not ready. We sit there and waste The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "our time for no reason. Why are we giving them so much time? They will not even have time to sit down with this Guild. So, Sen. Eddy, do away with this role. We do not need the Cabinet Secretary to be involved in everybody's business. That is why I keep on saying, we are over-regulating for no reason. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, in reference to the Guild, when you say in No.7(b)- “Conduct labour market surveys and mapping exercise of person involved in the creative industry, and put in place the most appropriate strategic strategies that facilitate the development of the creative industry.” This is why I keep on saying, we are over-regulating and over-legislating. Allow this industry to self-regulate. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if today you ask me to give you a list of all Maasai secular and gospel artists, I will give it to you because I have an interest in them. I have two interests in them. Every time I have an event, I know who to invite, so that I can support them. The private sector can play a critical role here. Every so often, you see Citizen Television, Radio Citizen and other radio stations doing roadshows. They hire the services of these artists to market their stations. So, let them self-regulate. The only thing that I could probably support is that every county government should have a record of the artists, but not set up a Guild that goes out to map. You are mapping, yet they are coming up every day. They are doing collaborations with artists in South Africa, Tanzania and Uganda. This is not necessary. Instead, this Guild should engage the private sector, so that in Narok County, we have a performance center, where on a daily basis, you have five or six artists who are going there, sell tickets and let them go. New York, around the world, is the place where in one street, you will find so many artists performing. There are orchestras. The private sector is playing a key role. We forget the power of the private sector. Let us fight to have a small government and allow the private sector to build this economy. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, what I like a bit about the role of this Guild is on (d). It says- “To collaborate with relevant institutions to facilitate the protections of the intellectual property rights of creative artists through sensitization and awareness programmes and facilitate the registration of works produced by creative artists.” If you ask me, that makes sense absolutely, because of copyright issues. However, today, you will find the Copyright Society of Kenya (CSK) sitting down to have coffee with the Communications Authority of Kenya (CAK). Before you realize, everybody is asked to pay money and when you follow through, you will find that that CSK, which is legislated by this House, has a bunch of few people who make all that money. The Guild can now say, artists have a choice, they can have their own channel, play their music and when they do, they should find a way for people to pay them. Secondly, I like the fact that we protect the intellectual property rights. I wish we were thinking like this when we, the Maasai, for instance, were talking about our rungus, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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