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"content": " Asante, Sen. Mundigi. Umejibu vizuri kabisa vile ambavyo miraa na muguka zinaweza kuongezewa thamani yake. Who do you want to inform, Sen. Nyamu? He is done. What other information do you have? Maybe you have some experience of what we can do better about miraa and muguka."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to inform Sen. Mundigi that as we speak today, there is a booming business of Jaba/miraa juice that is being sold in Nairobi and we have several brands. It is a drink. I do not want to say if I have consumed it or not, but I have seen people consuming it. The juice is named Jaba with different brands depending on the company that produces it. That has expanded the base of the people who consume Jaba. Ordinarily, there are people who would not chew muguka or miraa, but they are comfortable sipping the Jaba juice and feeling the handas effect of the miraa."
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"content": " Maybe I advise that you should also taste the Jaba juice and also enjoy the experience. There are other very good benefits which come with the Jaba juice and any juice associated with miraa. Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, our good doctor, you should also try that juice. It can really be of good benefit to you. I have that experience and I know it works so well Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale, you are the next contributor to this Motion."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Before I support this Motion, allow me to acknowledge the advice you have given me, that I partake of this. While you are saying it, a youth has sent me a message, quickly, real time, we are being followed, that I ask you, if that juice have any aphrodisiac capabilities. Mr. Speaker, just for the sake of the youth who has asked."
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"content": " What does aphrodisiac mean? Do you want me to tell you what it can do to you, if you partake it? That is why I want you to experience it. Just do in the company of Sen. Karen. She will show you where you can get it and then you just try. Both of you can try because she has not experienced it."
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"content": "If next time I am found with Sen. Karen in Nairobi, please make sure that you explain to the husband, Mr. Samido, that it was with your permission. Otherwise, I will not go out with her. I rise to support this Bill. It is a Bill that one cannot oppose because we want to share revenue between the two levels of Government. In supporting it, you spot the things that are not relevant or necessary so that we make it better. For this reason, I support and propose that this House does so, but with the amendments. The key amendment that we shall have to do is to ensure that the money reflects the functions that the county governments are supposed to do and the functions that the national Government is supposed to do. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Reading through the Bill, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the National Assembly tends to overemphasize what the Government has called national interest. On another day, I will challenge either the Deputy President, because he was the first to speak to it, and these MPs, to tell Kenyans what exactly they mean by national interest. Are you saying that some of the functions done in county governments do not carry national interest with them? Really? Agriculture that feeds the Republic is a function of grave national interest. Therefore, counties should not be denied money on the assumption that there is a greater interest that is only discharged by the national Government. Similarly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the question of treating Kenyans and early childhood development education are matters of grave national interest done by counties and so on and so forth. We urge Members of the National Assembly to try and understand devolution better and appreciate that all of them come from one county or the other. That being the case, they should not, while making a decision on the actual quantum of what goes where, be tempted to think that they owe it to the national Government. When we are dividing revenue, all MPs; Members of the National Assembly and Senators, must ensure the proper principles of division of revenue between the two levels of Government. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I propose that this House rises and stands behind the proposed figures of division, where we propose that the county governments gets Kshs465 billion and the national Government gets Kshs2.231 trillion. If we do so, we believe, as the Committee of Finance and Budget that we shall have hit the balance and both levels of Government will be able to meet their development and recurrent mandate. As we divide this money, the national Government must know that the Kshs2.231 trillion that they are remaining with, when it comes to development, all the eight regions of Kenya must see equity. We are sick and tired when we go around the country where one region of Kenya is 100 years ahead of another region in this country. The only crime that the region which is 100 years behind is because a son from that region or from a community of that region has never risen to the presidency or the office of the Prime Minister. This bad behaviour of development following the region and community from which the top leadership of the country comes from must come to an end in the new Kenya. In the new Kenya, we want all our eight regions to enjoy development equitably. All sub-counties, 290 of them, 47 counties must, together with the eight regions of the Republic of Kenya, be seen to move at the same pace. We would like His Excellency President William Samuel Ruto and his Cabinet to hear us the people of Western Kenya clearly. We campaigned for him; we support him and we want to succeed, so that our country can succeed. The people of the western region, expect in this budget that for the first time since the creation of the country called Kenya to enjoy development equitably. Kenyans will enjoy the dual carriage when going home and coming to the capital city of Kenya. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we expect a dual courage from Nairobi to Nakuru and to the Mau Summit. At that point, we expect that dual carriage to go into two branches. One branch to go to Kericho, then to Kisumu and from Kisumu to Kakamega. From Kakamega, it should join the other branch at Kaburengu in Webuye. For this other one and because they might not know where we want the road to go through, I will define to them this other dual carriage. Upon diversion at Mau Summit, it should go to Eldoret, Kabarengu, Bungoma and then to Malaba border. This will be massive because it will be a game changer in the economy of the Republic of Kenya. It should not be lost to Kenyans that when I say this, I am not only saying as a patriotic son of this country who was born in the western region of Kenya. However, I am saying it, as a man who is alive to the fact that if we do not grow our economy, we will burst because the population has been growing much faster. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we will be responding to the fact that Kenya's biggest single trading partner is Uganda. Coupled with the contribution of the trade that we do with Bujumbura, Kigali and Goma; this dualing of the road will be a game changer. It should be followed by a standard gauge rail line. We insist that this is the future of Kenya. So that it does not look like I only look at the Republic of Kenya through the precincts of where my community comes from; it is important that as we dual the western part, we also dual the highway from Nairobi to Mtito Andei, Voi and Mombasa. This is because Mombasa is the gateway into this country. Also, because Mombasa is the one through which all the huge volume of trade that we do with Uganda, Bujumbura, Kigali and Juba comes through it. We would expect the national Government, through the Kshs2.231 billion to ensure that the projects of Vision 2030 that were identified by President Mwai Kibaki are actualized. There is a critical project of Lamu Port South-Sudan Ethiopia Transport (LAPSSET). Creating the Lamu port is being done half-heartedly as if we do not want to create jobs and as if we do not want to open the economy through the Northern Corridor. We need to do the LAPSSET project. We need to fix a dual carriage from Lamu to Malindi and to Mombasa; and from Lamu all the way to Garissa, into Ethiopia and into South Sudan. It is only when we do this, that we shall create jobs. I am one of the firm believers that affording our children opportunities to get jobs abroad is a good idea, but I also know that creating jobs at home is a better idea. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when our educated youth leave this country to go work abroad because we are chasing after diaspora remittances to the country, that is a good thing. However, having them work at home so that all their income is earned and left here is a better thing. Therefore, as the Government pushes our children to go for jobs abroad, they have a greater responsibility of creating jobs at home. We would also like Elections 2027 to turn on to what it is that we are doing for our youth. As a father of youth, I believe that we owe it to them to give them jobs locally. I have some of top young professionals in my family. I would not want such brilliant children not to work for the Republic of Kenya. I would like them to work here so that they emulate me; how I worked for this Republic before I came to this Parliament. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is not a joke. It is not by accident that the United States of America (USA) is ahead; that China and India are chasing them. It is because these three countries make sure that the best of their best work at home. In the case of China and India, they send the best of their students to the top universities in the USA. Once they qualify, they go back home to develop their own countries. Further to the road infrastructure that I have spoken to, the people of the western region of this country which has been discriminated against for over 60 years, expect that because of the presence of the School of Medicine at the Masinde Muliro University of Science and Technology (MMUST), the former Provincial General Hospital of Kakamega will be elevated to Level Six in order for the University to use that institution to train our medical staff. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the people of western are tired of waking up at 3 a.m. so as to catch a plane in Kisumu or Eldoret for them to be in Nairobi in 29 minutes; when all we have to do to cure this, is develop the airport in Kakamega. Yes, you can help me if you like."
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