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            "content": "THE CREATIVE ECONOMY SUPPORT BILL (SENATE BILLS NO.30 OF 2024)"
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            "content": "(Sen. Oketch Gicheru on 7.5.2025)"
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            "content": "Resumption of debate interrupted on 21.5.2025 - Afternoon Sitting)"
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            "content": " Sen. Oketch Gicheru, you may now proceed to reply."
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            "content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for giving me this opportunity to reply to the Creative Economy Support Bill (Senate Bills No. 30 of 2024). Just like devolution, the creative economy has also suffered because it did not have champions. You saw the Baba effect today when he came to address us here. You have seen what one meeting with Baba has done to the Senate Majority Leader. He is fired up because he has had just one meeting with Baba. You can imagine what will happen if he is to have more meetings. I take this opportunity to thank the good Senator from Tana River County, Sen. Mungatana, for the great comments he made when he was seconding this Bill. It is a high time that the creative economy self-regulates. That self-regulation must be empowered by different facets of this House. If possible, they should have a good control over the funds that have been housed in the Ministry of Gender, Culture, the Arts and Heritage for a very long time."
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            "content": "I thank Sen. Mungatana for his comments, particularly when he suggested that there are a number of guilds that run the different clusters of creative economy. He propose that we consider having this as a council because the council will encompass many guilds which will give it a bigger governance structure. That bigger governance structure will then be semi-corporate. That organization will help the creatives rethink the idea of industrial policy. Mr. Speaker, Sir, from the comments of all the Senators who have spoken, this Bill will help the creative economy have an industrial policy influence. This will then inform the action or inaction of the Government. I sincerely thank Sen. Mungatana and all the Senators who have spoken on this Bill, including Sen. Hillary Sigei and Sen. Ledama, whose comments truly inspired me. They were keen on making sure that we should perhaps propose some amendments to ensure that the creative economy has a council instead of just a guild. They also suggested reducing some of the influence of the Ministry that has been proposed in the Bill. We had proposed that this Bill be housed under the Ministry of Trade, Investment and Industry. We do not want a situation where people view creatives as individuals who"
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