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"content": " I am sure the Chairperson did not specifically make reference to those particular ones, unless I did not listen to him. He made reference to general mining areas where royalties do not go through the proper channels that would entitle a payment of the royalties. However, Chairperson, kindly clarify that as you reply."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. I would like to inform my colleague that the money being shared in the name of royalty will only happen through royalties collected by the Government in the stipulated rates. If the Government has no collection of raw minerals, being the mining that is taking place in, for instance, Mandera County and it has not gone through the formal channels--- Even if we know there are minerals mining that is taking place, unless there is evidence of collection of royalty, expecting a share is not entirely reasonable. This is because what is being shared is money collected by the Government, then a portion of it under the law, as shared by Sen. Eddy, in specific terms, the different sections of the law, the percentages stipulated is what is being shared. That is all I have said. I cannot respond on behalf of the Cabinet Secretary or anybody else. However, I am only stating with authority that royalties being shared are royalties collected by the Government. That is just a basic principle. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Disbursement Schedule we are seeking to pass today is an amount of Kshs50 billion that will go to our counties in the form of county additional allocation. These are amounts in just a few key categories. The First Schedule of the Disbursement Schedule is carrying allocation financed by the national Government as a share of Kshs8.42 billion, comprising of conditional allocation for construction of county governments, the few counties that were promised to the amount of Kshs523 billion, Kshs2.9 billion conditional allocation for County Aggregation Industrial Parks (CAIPs), Kshs3.234 billion for Community Health Promoters (CHP) and Kshs1.759 billion conditional allocation for basic salary areas for county government health workers. The Second Schedule carries disbursement of Kshs116.1 million as court fines. I would also like to clarify something on the issue of court fines. Unless your county legislation imposes a fine for which the courts will collect on your behalf, then you are entitled to a share, but you cannot expect a general collection. It does not mean, necessarily, you have a lower crime rate or a higher crime rate. It just means that the legislation in that county may not have carried the penalties required for the courts to be able to collect that on your behalf. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Third Schedule carries Kshs37.9 billion as conditional allocation from loans and grants from development partners. I am extremely happy to acknowledge the contributions and support from the Senators. In my response, I want to emphasize the onus is upon the Senate to fulfil its responsibility. This gives us the moral authority to criticize our county governments for not doing this or that after we have executed our mandate as the Senate. The controversy between the Senate and the National Assembly regarding the issue of the County Additional Allocation was resolved at a much later date in the year. We will only do a lot of diligence by way of approving this County Additional Allocation Cash Disbursement Schedule. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "I know that because these are conditional grants, most of these grants are covered under a special-purpose account, differently for each donor-funded unit. So, the money will not be lost even if the county governments cannot absorb it. The money will go into the special-purpose account for the specific grant. Thereafter, they will be able to include it into their budgets by the end of June, 2025 and be able to use it now as appropriated, but the money will be with them for them to spend in line with the conditions that are given. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to reply."
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"content": " Hon. Senators, we are moving to Division. Serjeant-at-Arms, could you please ring the quorum bell for five minutes?"
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"content": "(The Quorum bell was rung)"
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"content": "Hon. Senators, we have not been able to attain the quorum to undertake the division. Chairperson Committee on Finance and Budget, go back and comply with the orders. You cannot cross the Floor the way you have done."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I beg to reply and request that putting of the question on the Motion be deferred to a later date pursuant to Standing Order No.66(3)."
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"content": "Next Order."
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