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"speaker_name": "Bumula, DAP-K",
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"content": "The KU medical students should be allowed unrestricted access to the hospital’s student wing, as was initially envisaged during the hospital’s conception. Additionally, the Committee recommends revocation of Legal Notice 39 of 2021, which amended Legal Notice 4 of 2019, to exclude the Vice-Chancellor of Kenyatta University from the hospital's board. Someone somewhere tried to be mischievous to ensure they completely lock out students of Kenyatta University. They threw out the Vice-Chancellor from sitting on the board of the hospital. They ensured that nobody represents the university. Even in those decisions leading to the Legal Notice, the university was not represented. Just to inform the House, these matters were dealt with completely by two Committees of this House, and a decision was reached. Our Committee has just upheld the decision. Two Committees cannot be wrong. On the very last one, we are encouraging the government to live by its part of the bargain, by ensuring that capitation money reaches these institutions on time and in full. The situation is not good in these public institutions, Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVETs), and universities. Vice-Chancellors have students in school. Principals have students in school. The year is coming to an end and as we speak, money has not been remitted to those institutions. We urge the Government to prioritise education, because education is the key enabler in any society. Now that we have a new funding model, let us ensure that heads of these institutions have money as required by law, in time, and as appropriated by this House. This will ensure that these institutions are run seamlessly so that our students are better. Hon. Deputy Speaker, having noted the proceedings of the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education, on the examination of the Reports of the Auditor- General on the financial statements of state corporations for the Financial Year 2018/2019, 2019/2020, and 2020/2021, I beg to move and urge the House to adopt this Report. I request Hon. Kirima to second this Motion."
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"speaker_name": "Central Imenti, UDA",
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"content": " Hon. Deputy Speaker, I support the Motion by the Chairman of the PIC…"
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"content": "Raise your microphone."
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"content": " Hon. Deputy Speaker, I second the Motion by the Chairman of the Public Investments Committee on Governance and Education in which I am a member, and the recommendations thereby given. It has been observed by the Committee that the recommendations given should be implemented by the Committee on Implementation. The Committee on Implementation must take the observations seriously, especially in the matters whereby properties of the institutions The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "are being misappropriated against the law. In matters like the land in Kenyatta University, the 12.6 acres which we are saying is occupied illegally by the squatters…"
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"content": "(Hon. Kwenya Thuku, Hon. Wanami Wamboka and Hon. Emmanuel Wangwe consulted loudly)"
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"content": "Hon. Kwenya, take the Kamukunji away and allow the Member to speak."
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"content": " We are saying that the land has been illegally occupied by the squatters. When the Committee tried to visit the said piece of land, we could not access it but could only see it at a distance. The 12.6 acres have been heavily developed with storey buildings, some extending up to five storeys. They are big magnificent buildings which cannot be referred to as belonging to ordinary squatters. The same buildings have been associated with big names in this country, including big people in this House. The mention of the Kamae land at Kenyatta University raises the hairs of some leaders in this House. It is the recommendation of this Committee that the accounting officer of an institution or corporate body must be responsible for acts that take place within the institution. The Committee observed, as stated by the Chairman, that corruption thrives in Government corporations. This is in the sense that buildings, contracts and procurement procedures, including the extension of contracts, are undertaken without following the law. The accounting officers concerned have been fined by this Committee. However, the Committee has been rendered toothless because its recommendations have not been implemented by the Committee on Implementation of this House. This means taxpayers’ money is wasted for no reason, especially when it comes to spending colossal amounts of money such as Ksh600 million on buildings or items which cannot be seen. The Committee has recommended that accounting officers of these institutions must be held liable or compensate the Government as required by the law. Whoever is responsible for the loss of public money must pay the same to the Government so that other officers can learn from those who have been surcharged. There are cases where imprests have not been cleared or were given without the council's recommendation or minutes. These institutions are being run anyhow. There is a lot of incompetence. For instance, in Moi University, the incompetence of the Accounting Officer led to the collapse of what was once a magnificent, national and international institution. This is also the case with Kenyatta University. We found out that nepotism is the mother of incompetence, which has ended up being the source of collapse of our institutions. The accounting officers appointed to these institutions, including Kenyatta University, think that they are there to loot. They do not know that they are there to be accountable for all actions within their institutions. This Committee recommended that the person be surcharged for the losses incurred during his time, but those recommendations were not implemented. Those are the observations of the Committee. I call upon this House, especially the Committee on Implementation, to ensure that Kenyatta University recovers the land as per the court’s judgement. The moment the court passes a judgement, auctioneers are given a chance to implement it. However, they cannot implement it because of the goons, or watu ya mkono, as it is said, who are there to protect the big landlords who purport to be squatters yet they are not. How does a squatter manage to put up a five-storey building? How does he manage not only to live in that land but also build premises for hire? There are three-bedroom houses in a five-storey building. I call upon the Committee on Implementation to look at it and save our institutions from grabbers. This is outright grabbing of public property. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Central Imenti, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Moses Kirima",
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"content": "With those few remarks, I second the Motion, Hon. Deputy Speaker. Thank you very much."
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"content": "Thank you. Next is Hon. Bisau, Member for Kiminini. Sorry, let me propose the Question first."
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