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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
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"content": "In Kenya, the only challenge we have with this parameter is that population census is not done regularly but after a long time. Therefore, estimating the reality of population in a particular area is becoming a very big challenge. We urge this House, that in future we have regular population census being conducted so that we are sure of the population when allocating resources to the counties."
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"content": "The other parameter which has been considered here is the land area. It is an important parameter because some counties have a large land size. Accessing services becomes a problem for populations. They need more resources so that they are able to provide services to populations wherever they are. This has also been an important formula which has been considered when deciding the resources to counties. The other parameter which has been used is the poverty index. However, it has been challenged as a basis for sharing resources. This is because some counties have refused to develop or improve their poverty levels since they are sure that this parameter will be used to give them resources. So, they have chosen to remain poor. Even though this parameter has been used we urge going forward that it needs to be a lesser parameter so that counties can improve their poverty levels. Since poverty level is a parameter, most counties have refused to work hard. Some have chosen to remain poor over the years despite us pumping too many resources into them. They know that as long as they are poor, they will get more resources."
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"speaker_name": "Alego Usonga, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Samuel Atandi",
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"content": "Hon. Speaker, another parameter which has also been considered is the health status of counties. Resources given to counties are supposed to help in improving livelihoods, services and facilities. Some counties have refused to graduate in provision of health services even though health is devolved. They do not employ doctors or build health facilities. They want to use this parameter to continue earning more resources in the revenue sharing of resources among counties. The Budget and Appropriations Committee agrees with this formula and the way resources have been allocated to counties especially, now that 12 counties are being considered for special allocation. We realised that the 12 counties have been unable to undertake development projects because of their sizes and the resources they receive. Under the new formula, the 12 counties will receive a special allocation. In this formula, we have a sharable allocation of Ksh15 billion. This means that the 12 counties will get more resources for development; about Ksh4.46 billion to assist them initiate development programmes. This formula is very simple. I want to thank the Senate for coming up with it. It is a result of a very consultative process. This formula will ensure that counties which have not engaged properly in development programmes will now have an opportunity to do so."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Samuel Atandi",
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"content": "With those remarks, I beg to move and ask my able Vice-Chairman to second."
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"content": "Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informationpurposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I stand to second the Motion."
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"content": "Firstly, I want to thank Hon. Chairman who led our team from the National Assembly in the discussions. I also want to thank Hon. Senator Ali Roba who led the Senate team. This formula will help us to implement the outcomes of our mediation. It is based on Ksh415 billion and every county will benefit in terms of development. Hon. Mwashako a Member of the Budget and Appropriations Committee, joked that all tall women in Taita get married outside the county, leaving the short ones behind. This is because of the amount the county gets. Hon. Haika can confirm. You know she got married in Rift Valley because she is tall. So, this formula will ensure that Taita County gets an extra Ksh300 million to enable it undertake development. The same goes to Elgeyo-Marakwet County and the others that were previously marginalised. I hope these counties will utilise those resources well. Hon. Speaker, you and I come from the western part of this country. You know what has been happening in my county of Trans-Nzoia. Resources have been disappearing with no meaningful development. Money is being stolen left, right and centre. It is embarrassing. When devolution came each county was expected to have meaningful development. With this formula, Trans-Nzoia County will get an extra Ksh100 million. I hope this money will not be stolen. By increasing the allocation, we want to see meaningful development in Endebess. What development projects has the Trans-Nzoia County Government done in Endebess, Kiminini, Saboti, Kwanza and Cherangany?"
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"content": "By agreeing with this formula from the Senate and by extension from the Commission on Revenue Allocation (CRA), this means we have looked at how development can reach the ground. It will be a shame if this House appropriates funds and agrees with this formula and then the money ends up in people’s pockets. This is the most disgraceful thing that can happen. This is a good formula. We hope it will bring meaningful development in the counties. Each and every county will have money for development and not just for recurrent expenditure. Instead of using money for development, some county governments employ goons to move around from one constituency to another to intimidate Members of Parliament. I do not think that is the way we want to go as a country. I ask the Inspector- General (IG) of Police and the Cabinet Secretary, Hon. Murkomen to rein in on the goons. We should not be a country of goons. This will mean we are deteriorating and going the Haiti way, where everybody has his own militia. That is not what we want. As the Budget and Appropriations Committee, we are happy with this formula. I hope the National Assembly will pass it."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Robert Pukose",
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"content": "With those few remarks, Hon. Speaker, I second."
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"content": "Order, Members on their feet. Take your seats. Members at the back, take the nearest seats. Thank you."
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