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"content": " It is very easy to know the Members eyeing the gubernatorial seat in future. We can easily listen to them. Hon. Gideon Ochanda, the Member for Bondo."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I do not want to get into the troubles of eyeing the gubernatorial seat too early."
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"content": "As I look forward to contribute properly to this Motion, I remind myself and the entire House a number of things. Definitely, there has to be a formula, in terms of how we share resources horizontally. Besides that, as much as the Chairperson has brought us what the Senate has looked at, I believe there are many other things that are not yet looked at properly. One of these factors is the constitutional considerations that we have. There are provisions in Article 203 of the Constitution. It states the criteria that shall be taken into account in determining the equitable shares of the revenue raised nationally between the national Government and county governments. Article 203(1)(d) of the Constitution states there is the need to ensure that county governments are able to perform the functions that are allocated to them. When looking at the allocation of revenue to counties, who has ascertained or computed the county functions and their value before we allocate them resources? The other important factor that the Constitution provides, that has not been looked at, is the fiscal capacity and efficiency of county governments. The CRA needs to look at these things before we allocate money to these counties. When you consider these factors, we have counties which need be closed down. These are critical factors and constitutional provisions that we really need to look at every single time that we are allocating resources. Two months ago, we placed more money into counties in the name of additional funding. We passed a Motion and gave them more money. At what stage do we consider these additional monies allocated to counties, especially when we are doing the horizontal placement of resources? The whole issue of additional funding is a critical matter that needs to be looked at in terms of functions that the national Government is still performing on behalf of the counties. Where are those monies? Where do we look for them? For example, take the issue of markets. In the last financial year, we placed a lot of money in markets, which is a function of county governments, done by the national Government. Another issue is that of grants. Each year, there are grants disbursed to counties. However, at the point where we determine what resources go to which counties, nobody knows the counties that have been getting grants. For example, Embu is listed among the counties that deserve increased allocations. But when you look at grants, you find that Embu has received more in grants than Busia over the past few years. This is an issue that must be revisited. We must ask ourselves: where do we usually allocate our grants? When discussing additional revenues, where do those revenues go? These are factors that should be evaluated consistently when allocating resources. Finally, we are allocating resources to counties where the Equalisation Fund has also placed resources. The Constitution outlines the purpose and target areas for the Equalisation Fund. Why are we again directing resources to those same counties using the same indicators? What this means is that some counties are receiving double allocations. One from the Equalisation Fund and another from horizontal allocations. These allocations are based on identical criteria. These are critical factors that we need to evaluate moving forward. One day, someone will challenge us in court. Why are we not adhering to constitutional The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informationpurposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "parameters that must be looked at keenly? Why are we adding more money to some counties after allocating significant resources through other mechanisms? Why are grants ignored when reviewing county allocations? Why are we applying factors used by another fund for horizontal placement? Thank you."
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"content": " The Hon. Tom Joseph Francis Kajwang’, Member for Ruaraka."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, even though I do not intend to marshal two-thirds of the House to overturn this Bill, I must speak to the negative. I find the formula adopted by the Commission to be fairly simplistic. After 15 years of constitutional implementation, we ought to have reviewed and adopted more robust statistical models for discussions on revenue sharing. When the formula is narrowed down to population, geographic size, and poverty index alone, many other important statistical indicators are excluded. These are indicators which dovetail with production or development in a country. I rise after listening to earlier speakers decry, for instance, why a capital city like Nairobi should be allocated a significant portion of revenue. I wish to defend Nairobi, not because I come from Nairobi City, but because I also live and do business here. Nairobi is the apex. In terms of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) contribution, you develop places where factors of production are easily harnessed and developed to sustain quick and robust changes. That is where we ought to direct our finest infrastructure and resources. The population is fairly industrious, dynamic, and capable of productivity. We must stop thinking in tribal or sub-county terms. We must think nationally. Development of urban centres is not just for the benefit of a region. It is for the benefit of the nation. I would expect development parameters such as development index, life expectancy, reproductive health and access to essential services to be considered. What resources are available in a county? What minerals lie underground? I would have no issue if Taita Taveta, for example, received more money to exploit its mineral wealth. nor would I object to Turkana receiving additional allocations for oil exploration. If we merely distribute money because regions are labelled as counties in the Constitution, just to appease everyone, we fail to create meaningful development and fail to enhance our GDP. We must think as a nation, although there is devolution, which allows us to harness our rural areas. If Migori, for instance, could lead us in terms of GDP growth, let us invest in Migori and use it as a national launchpad towards being like Singapore. We need an intellectual discourse around these formulas. We must think as patriots and move away from thinking of ourselves as small, fragmented entities called counties. The last thing we need to do is allocate funds where money yields more money, and where real happiness results. Sometimes, real happiness is not always about money. Sometimes it is about social protection. Sometimes it is about social justice. Just recently, we saw young people protesting in the streets. That should concern all of us. The indicators of social justice in Nairobi, for example, are alarmingly low. That ought to be a parameter when allocating resources. I admit that this is a complex science. But I urge this House to put its mind to the task. We must develop a more reasonable and widely accepted formula. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for informationpurposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "I know Daktari knows I do not have two-thirds to override this Motion. I, nonetheless, leave it in the Hansard that somebody will consider that I, T. J. Kajwang’, raised substantive and robust criticisms against the formula used. Thank you very much."
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