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"speaker_name": "Marsabit County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naomi Waqo",
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"content": "Within a short time, they can approve what needs to be done, which will benefit citizens. County assemblies will be proud of their work. This Bill will also enhance accountability. It will also ensure timely reporting to oversight bodies. We have a corruption problem in the country. The measures outlined in the Bill will ensure accountability and effectiveness. Funds will be available for county assemblies to serve the people. Clause 5(a) of the Bill says: “Arrange for the County Assembly Fund to be kept in the Central Bank of Kenya in an account to be known as the County Assembly Fund Account.” We should all support this Bill because counties will now have funds in their accounts to run their projects and programmes, deliver better services, reach out to their people, and do the projects that they need to do. With those few remarks, I support the Bill. The faster the President assents to it, the better so that our counties can benefit from it."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Hon. Umulkher, followed by Hon. Jematiah."
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"speaker_name": "Nominated, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Umulkher Harun",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to contribute to this matter. This is a timely amendment Bill, as it supports the independence of our county assemblies and county governments, allowing them to operate efficiently. The biggest challenge currently facing Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) is having to work with the county executives while performing their oversight roles. The Bill will enable MCAs to perform their duties with minimal intimidation. I support that agenda. I am concerned that we might be creating emboldened clerks within the Bill. I propose that we get guidance on how we can address that because we might have a situation where the clerks run everything, and they might even undermine the work being done in the county assemblies due to corruption. When the crafters of the Constitution introduced devolution, they did not envision creating individual millionaires. We now have demagogue governors who undermine development."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
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"content": " Member for Garissa, I was in the 10th Parliament which fathered the current Constitution. The independence we envisaged for Parliament was to be devolved to the county assemblies. The only missing thing was the laws that would operationalise the independence of the county assemblies. At no time did the framers of the Constitution imagine that the county assemblies would lack independence unlike the National Assembly."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Umulkher Harun",
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"content": " I get your point, Hon. Temporary Speaker. However, my point was on the vision of the county governments. Devolution was intended to allow resources to trickle down to the counties and to promote the independence of marginalised regions. Corruption has resulted in governors who run everything without consultation and with little oversight from the MCAs. The Bill will address that challenge, and I support it. I hope that we will deal with the issue of the clerks so that we can have very strong county governments and county assemblies. I also encourage the Senate to propose a Bill that blocks immediate former governors from running for a Senate seat because they use the Senate to protect themselves from prosecution after looting during their 10-year term. The Senate should protect us from these thugs who transition to Parliament because the National Assembly and the Senate have respectable Members. We do not wish to have thugs sitting in our House. Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Hon. Jematiah. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Baringo County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Jematiah Sergon",
"speaker": null,
"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Farah Maalim",
"speaker_title": "The Temporary Speaker",
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"content": " Hon. Umulkher was very categorical."
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"speaker_name": "Baringo County, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Jematiah Sergon",
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"content": " Hon. Umulkher was very specific, and repeatedly called rogue governors “thugs”. I also join my colleagues in supporting this Senate Bill that will enable our counties to be fully functional. I also echo your words that this Bill replicates the existing pattern in the National Assembly. The Bill categorically shows how the funds will be utilised, almost to the extent of giving details on how the money will be managed. The County Public Finance Laws (Amendment) Bill will help us manage our counties. Specifically monies going to accounts of every county according to their numbers and locations since all regions in this country differ. I insist that this is a very nice Bill if you look at what Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) go through, as much as they want to do their work without interference from the Executives."
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"content": "(Hon. Umulkher Harun’s microphone was on)"
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