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"content": "I am distracted a bit. Two microphones are on."
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"content": " Umulkher’s microphone can be switched off."
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"content": " Just as we do here in Parliament, where we pay our bills and manage our spaces, MCAs need to have their funds to manage day- to-day activities in assemblies as they conduct oversight. I am specifically referring to oversight over the Executive of Governors, County Executive Committee Members (CECMs), and Chief Officers (Cos). County Assemblies should also ensure that their buildings are managed properly, as they belong to the Kenyan people. They are supposed to help counties to grow for posterity. These funds shall defray administrative expenses and assist with the acquisition, proper maintenance, and upkeep of county assemblies' buildings, grounds, and other assets. This will keep counties in good shape for a long time. There is another good thing about this Fund, according to the Constitution. The County Assembly Fund shall retain accruals and balances of county assemblies at the end of each financial year. They shall be applied in accordance with the Constitution. Section 109E is very interesting. It says county treasuries shall disburse monies to the County Assembly Fund at the beginning of every month and in any event not later than the 15th day from the commencement of the month. That will be for the expenditure of the following month. This will ensure proper utilisation and management in counties. You will realise that most of the counties are unable to pay their bills. This Fund will give them very good service. The Clerk of a County Assembly will be the administrator of the Fund. They will now be able to manage the institution. The institutions are already in place. To maintain and make them useful for posterity, we must give them an opportunity to serve through this Bill. Thank you. I support the County Public Finance Laws (Amendment) Bill."
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"content": " Hon. Naisula, the lady from Samburu."
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": " Thank you very much, especially for giving women chances to speak in quick succession. We are always thrown like beans in"
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": ". I will take a very few minutes because my colleagues have said much about this Bill. I support the County Public Finance Laws (Amendment) Bill. I commend the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Budget led by the Chair, Hon. (Sen.) Roba, for coming up with this very important Bill. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Samburu West, KANU",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Naisula Lesuuda",
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"content": "As you have rightfully said severally, you were there during the Constitution-making process. The Constitution is a living document. As we implement it, we learn and see what the country needs to do progressively. The Senate and our county assemblies have seen this as one of the challenges. I know many Members here whose MCAs have reached out to me saying that when this Bill comes to the Floor of the House, we should support it. This is because they have noted that there is a big challenge when they have no autonomy over their finances and how they run and manage the resources that come to the county assemblies. It is quite demoralising when it is the Executive which allocates money. It is as if the assemblies are the qualms of the counties, so they have to wait for the Executive to determine how much money they will be given. It is as if they are begging for that money. However, as you rightly said, it will mirror what we have in Parliament, the Judiciary, and the Executive. We have also seen another challenge in our counties, where MCAs have to run around looking for the Ward Development Fund (WDF). And if you do not support that governor, you will not be given the WDF. It is akin to tokenism for the MCAs and what they are supposed to do. Most importantly, once they have their own resources, it will enable them to do their work more effectively. Just as we are facilitated here to execute our mandate in Parliament, when our county assemblies are well-resourced, their motivation and working methods will improve. That is what we expect to see from them once the Bill is passed and assented to. It is also coming in at the right time, when we are doing the budget process, and we just passed the Division of Revenue Bill. I therefore hope it can be expedited and assented to so that it can start working. With those very many remarks, I support."
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"content": " The Hon. Member for Tharaka, Hon. Murugara."
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"speaker_name": "Tharaka, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. George Murugara",
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"content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I begin by saying three things. Number one, lately, we have not seen anything good coming from the Senate, apart from some bills that have been falling when they come here and some of which we have been rejecting outright. This is because they have been busying themselves with things that do not concern them. But as we debate now, something good has come from the Senate: a Bill trying to entrench a fund in the Public Finance Management Act to secure ward representatives, the MCAs."
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