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"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " Let us have Hon. Wilberforce Oundo followed by Hon. (Dr) Makali Mulu. I request that you take under five minutes each because of time."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I stand here to support the Finance Bill, 2025."
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"content": "You guys are worried?"
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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"content": "Compared to the Finance Bill, 2023 and Finance Bill, 2024, whatever shortcomings are in this Bill are curable, unlike the past two that were incurably defective. As we stand here today, the Finance Bill here is published as due for debate. The Report of the Committee is only material at the Committee of the whole House. That is the point when this Finance Bill can be amended. I want Kenyans to be very clear in their minds, that what we are discussing here today, is what has been published. That the Report of the Committee based on the results of public participation, will only be of material effect during the Committee of the whole House, when a Bill read and published can be amended. I have perused through the Report of the Committee. I must say the young guys of last year, 2024, have forced us, Parliamentarians, to start listening. In the previous years, we were impervious. We were immune to common mwananchi’s views. But because of the events of June 2025, the hubris is dropped. We have humbled ourselves. We can purport and pretend to The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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"content": "listen. I hope whatever we have listened to, will find its way through the Committee of the whole House as we amend to make matters clearer and good for us. Allow me to go through a few issues that have been placed here…"
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"speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": " On a point of order, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " What is out of order, Leader of the Majority Party? Remember Hon. Oundo has barely two minutes to go."
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"speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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"content": " Yes, Hon. Temporary Speaker. It is because of the kind of unpalatable things he is saying about the House which are untrue. As a Member of Parliament, he is aware that last year, the Committee listened to people and brought amendments. I can ascertain that. It is such careless talk by leaders that incites Kenyans. I beg that Hon. Oundo withdraws and apologises to the House. Because he cannot say that, knowing very well the process that that Bill underwent last year; the same process this Bill has undergone this year. I beg that he withdraws and apologises to the House."
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