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            "speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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            "content": " You are saying out of order. What is out of order?"
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            "speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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            "content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I have not said anything."
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            "content": " Okay. Go ahead, Hon. Osoro."
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            "content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I also feel that the IPOA is expected to do so much by the public, even by the police themselves but, with meagre resources, that cannot help them mitigate the challenges that they have. I also must appreciate the fact that I have heard several matters, sometimes for and, sometimes, against the IPOA. I must confess that they have so much in their hands. This budget is inadequate. If there is something that we can do to raise it, at least, to about Ksh3 billion or something, we will then give them wings to fly and make them independent. One case that has been mentioned is very true. Sometimes, they move around with police choppers to investigate the police. Yesterday, when the National Police Service was issuing a statement at the Central Police Station, they were there and they were standing on the podium."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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            "content": " They were investigating."
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            "content": " They were speaking from a podium that was set up by the police that they are supposed to investigate. All this is about resources."
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            "content": " Thank you. Hon. Emaase."
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            "speaker_name": "Teso South, UDA",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Mary Emaase",
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            "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I join my colleagues in demanding that we increase the budget for IPOA. There is an increasing number of cases that are affecting police officers. It is not only murder, like the disgusting one where someone was killed in the police station, but many others, even related to gender-based violence in police stations. There is need for this budget to be enhanced for them to even employ more staff and to become independent. Probably, during the Supplementary Estimates I of our Budget, we should increase the budget of IPOA. Thank you."
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            "speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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            "content": " Hon. Kaluma."
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            "speaker_name": "Homa Bay Town, ODM",
            "speaker_title": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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            "content": " I thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I serve in the Committee under which IPOA falls. Our police officers have refused the reforms that were brought by the new Constitution. They are still behaving like a force, not a service. Those police officers are serving Kenyans across the country and yet, this particular Authority barely has even vehicles to move. It barely has petroleum for the few vehicles they have. They barely have staff across the country. I would agree with the Members that if we are The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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