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"content": " We will move a Motion here to remove that Oversight Fund Ksh500 million. What is it for? What do they need it for? Those senators are The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "never even seen in the constituencies or in the counties. They stay here in Nairobi, use their money, have fun, and come here and turn the Senate into a talk show. They talk and talk and do nothing. We do not pay people to just have a talk show."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you. Chairman of Departmental Committee on Transport and Infrastructure, the Member for Ndia."
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"speaker_name": "Ndia, UDA",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Chairman. I want to support my colleagues here because I have seen and noted every time senators summon the Cabinet Secretary, say, for Roads and Transport, they ask questions and they follow up on issues that have nothing to do with devolution. Yesterday, I was told by a Chief Executive Officer of a State agency that he has been asked to host Senators somewhere over devolution issues that the institution has nothing to do with. It has nothing to do with the devolved governments and county governments. I want to support that these Senators, who are our colleagues, our friends and our constituents, should focus on the job that they were elected to do. Their job has nothing to do with un-devolved functions."
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"content": " Hon. Oundo."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, sometimes, when I stand here to talk about Senators who are our colleagues, I feel very sad. Sad to the extent that the Constitution was clear under Article 96 on what they are supposed to do,. Yet, they cannot do what they are supposed to do. For example, my Senator from Busia County gets Ksh20 million a year for doing nothing. We need to have a sober discussion with them. They either oversee the counties or relinquish the money. If they do not have enough work to do, then probably when we have our next referendum, we should make them work part-time so that they come, do gumzo mtaani, and then go away."
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"speaker_name": "Hon. David Ochieng’",
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"content": " Thank you."
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"speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
"speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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"content": " You find them doing what they are doing because they are not busy. They do not do budgets as we do. Today, we had the Committee on Supply. They have spent the whole day talking about summoning a Cabinet Secretary for, I do not know, Interior, for what and what?"
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"content": " Thank you, Member for Funyula. Hon. Bashir."
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"speaker_name": "Mandera North, UDM",
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Chairman, I want to join my colleagues in stating that the Senate is cut out for defending and upholding devolution. Of late, we see Cabinet Secretaries and State Departments appearing before the Senate on matters that have nothing to do with devolution. I do not know what will happen if, for example, our committees or the National Assembly was to summon Governors. How will that look like? Why would someone summon the Minister for Defence and yet we are not allowed to summon a governor. We need to have a robust discussion on this matter. I urge both Speakers to engage on this matter. Issues that are national should be left for the National Assembly and issues of devolution left for the counties. It will look ugly if we summon governors. What about the Senate summoning the Minister for Defence? We need to have a robust discussion so that we engage the Senators and have time lines on what they need to do."
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