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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Sunkuli."
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"content": " Hon. Temporary Speaker, I would like to support this policy. However, in my opinion, it is not adequate. I have not heard the Mover of the Motion say how much public participation it went through and the quality of public participation for this."
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"content": "This is an area of our lives that requires a lot of attention. In the preamble, the Principal Secretary, Mr Julius Korir, says that the intention of this policy is to make Kenya a clean, prosperous, and secure country. However, as we all travel, especially to the West, we can see that we are still below the mark. We need to pay attention to our sanitation. When we travel out of Kenya, we get the impression that people believe Africans are dirty and that things from Africa are not clean. The food is not clean. When you visit Africa, you carry bottled water because the water is not clean. I was in Geneva the other day. There, you are advised not to buy bottled water because tap water is clean."
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"content": "We need to pay attention to a number of things. The first is the issue of defecation, although it has been mentioned in this policy. Many people in our country still go to the bush to answer the call of nature. This in itself causes a lot of problems. Sometimes, the places people use for a call of nature are close to water sources, and this contamination ends up in the water. It must be a strong part of the policy that in every marketplace and every town, the county government must provide toilets to the people. That must be the case. We must eradicate open defecation completely. There are some markets I have visited where people ask the Member of Parliament to construct a toilet. If you do not, and the county government has not either, what are people supposed to do about their sanitation? The city or town will be dirty. You will not even find a bush clean enough for goats to eat leaves. This issue is very important. As Kenyans, we have bad habits that we need to get rid of for our country to be clean. If you are driving from Kisii to Nairobi, you must close your window because someone might eat something and throw the litter on your car. If your window is open, it might hit you. Even if it does not, it will hit the ground. If we do not eliminate these bad habits through legislation, it will remain a problem. In some countries, even chewing gum requires a certain level of responsibility because it is biodegradable. Non-biodegradable things ruin the environment."
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"content": "More fundamentally, in how many counties do we have a sewage system? We are still using the old system. People build houses and have their own septic tanks. However, we ultimately do not know where the waste ends up. As a matter of policy, each county must provide a designated area for waste, including both solid and liquid waste. That is what this policy seems to lack, and what to embed in it. We should not give counties responsibilities without attaching consequences. We must say what exactly happens to counties that do not provide sewage and sanitation facilities."
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"content": "I hope this policy will eventually be amended and customised, and more public participation will be carried out so that we can have cleaner and safer cities. I support."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Hon. Rindikiri Mugambi, Member for Buuri. Some people call it ‘Buuri’, but it is pronounced as ‘Vuuri’."
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"content": " That is the correct pronunciation, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The National Sanitation Policy is long overdue in this country. Having clean sanitation facilities is embedded in our Constitution. Every Kenyan deserves a clean and sustainable environment, particularly a sanitation framework. A policy serves as a guide for planning, implementation, regulation, and monitoring. That is what a policy is supposed to address. The policy, as my colleague Hon. Sunkuli has said, is supposed to set clear objectives of what needs The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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