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"content": "Waste management has become a serious business for people who have connections and can access a license for waste management. They charge any fee irrespective of the services that they provide. I can tell that my time is up. I support this policy. I hope the Committee will conduct public participation to gather the views of Kenyans on the policy so that once it is adopted, we do not have to go back and forth revising it. I support the Motion."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Prof Bartoo. Hon. Caleb, the Member for Machakos Town."
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"content": "Machakos Town, MCCP): Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. I rise to support the Motion on Consideration of the National Sanitation Management Policy. I join my colleagues in saying that the policy should have gone further to take care of the sewer part. Most of the time, we deal with water and concentrate our efforts in that area. However, we often forget that the water we use eventually ends up in the sewer, and wherever it goes, it must be managed. When we have a clean environment, we have a healthy nation and when we have a healthy nation, even the life expectancy is high. Therefore, I rise to support the Report, but I ask the Committee and Hon. Chairman to go deeper and deal with the issue of the sewer system. In my area, we have a river called Athi, which is now purely sewer. All the houses and dwellings around it discharge raw sewage into the river, which then flows into the big dam that we are building in Thwake. If we do not take care of and have good policies to take care of the sewer, we will have a big sewer in the name of a dam called Thwake, which is costing the Government a lot of money. Hon. Michuki tried to clean the river, which is a possible thing to do. It is very possible for us to clean the Nairobi River and the rivers that surround the city so that we can have clean rivers. We also experience some negative effects from having these sewers in our lower area. If you go down to Machakos, the Athi River flows from Machakos, then continues to Mwala and eventually reaches Thwake. We have funny diseases like cancer that are being caused by unkept or improperly managed sewers and rivers. As I mentioned, the industries surrounding Athi River discharge all their carcinogenic waste into the river, which then flows downstream. That water is used by people in Mwala in Machakos. It is dangerous because it has cancer- causing carcinogenic chemicals."
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"content": "Therefore, Hon. Temporary Speaker, I support the Motion. However, we must delve deeper and further to develop policies that will effectively address the sewer system. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Member for Machakos Town Constituency. Hon. Agnes Pereyio, Member for Narok North Constituency."
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"speaker_name": "Narok North, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon. Agnes Mantaine",
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me the opportunity to support the Report. Sessional Paper No.7 of 2024 on the National Sanitation Management Policy is very important. It should extend beyond urban areas and also consider rural areas. If you look at the rural areas, you will find that people have no toilets and the rivers that are there are dirty. They are not fit for human consumption because the people do not have a place to relieve themselves. It is high time that county governments took responsibility and ensured that they built toilets in all markets for people. It is also high time that we considered our people to ensure that they do not take contaminated water. Therefore, I think it is important for the Report to be looked at so that they can bring in the rural areas and make it a bit stronger by ensuring it addresses the problems faced by our people. I support the Report. As the Hon. Temporary Speaker said, most of the towns or markets have no places where people can relieve themselves. Therefore, I support the Report. Thank you."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you, Hon. Agnes. Hon. Salah Yakub, the Member of Parliament for Fafi Constituency. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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"content": "Hon. Members, this is a Report by the Departmental Committee on Blue Economy, Water and Irrigation for those who would like to debate."
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"content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for giving me a chance. I rise to support the Motion in the House on Sessional Paper No.7 of 2024 on National Sanitation Management Policy. This is a policy that has been lacking in our management of sanitation in the country. We support this Motion because of many reasons. Firstly, improved sanitation leads to improved health. Improved health leads to a reduced budget for national health expenses. Most of the diseases that the country is facing now are infectious diseases, which are either airborne or waterborne. These are diseases related to sanitation. Lifestyle diseases are very rare, although they are on the rise. However, if we had an uncompromising and holistic sanitation policy, then the issue of infectious diseases would be the least on our tables today which means our budget for national health could have been reduced. Sanitation levels in our counties are appalling. A case in point: I come from Garissa County, whose Headquarters is Garissa Town. There is a sewer done by the World Bank (WB) to the tune of billions. However, 75 per cent of Garissa Town residents still use septic tanks; they are not connected to this sewer line. The sewer itself is bursting as we speak today. There is a lack of a sanitation policy, which could have led to an Act that would have held people culpable for the effects of sanitation or sewage issues if they were not addressed in Garissa. Inception or consideration of this policy will help cater for such incidents. Seventy per cent of Garissa County uses underground water. The consumption of underground water is subject to the level of sanitation. The majority of people in those areas use pit latrines. Therefore, our consumption of that water could have been of higher standards if sanitation policies in this country were in place. Wajir is a case in point where the water table is very low. Most of the water in Wajir Town originates from underground sources. Sanitation is appalling; 60 years after Independence, Wajir town still lacks a functioning sewer project of a substantial magnitude. I do not know whether it is in existence, but I think it is not there. Therefore, we support this policy because we know the effect it will have on our people and the country. We also know that as a developing nation, we want to reach the level of developed countries. If we want to do that, then the sanitation standards in our country should be higher. If you look at a neighbouring country like Rwanda, you will be shocked by the level of cleanliness in that environment, as they have functional policies and Acts. Our dumpsites in this country do not meet the standards set by the Environmental Management and Coordination Act (EMCA) Laws. Anyone who feels like dumping something does it wherever they want. County governments often lack functional legislation, or if it exists, it is not enforced to the necessary level. Our hospitals lack incinerators. If you visit our hospitals, you will be shocked to see the number of used needles, syringes, and bandages which have infections lying around there. This National Sanitation Management Policy will help us combat such kind of incidents. It will make this country a healthier nation, provide us with a clean environment, and reduce our national healthcare budget. I submit. I support this Policy, and I hope it is fast-tracked so that we have an act guiding us on that. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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"content": "(Hon. (Dr) Rachael Nyamai): Thank you very much. Hon. Members, there being no other interest in this Motion. I would like to call upon the Mover to reply. Information on the Speaker's desk is that Dorothy Ikiara, you are replying on behalf of the Mover, the Chairman of the Committee. Please proceed to reply. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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