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"content": "If you want to know that EACC is working, you will see them chasing a police officer who has received a bribe of Kshs50. That is why I say, I know corruption is not good, but go for the bigger evil. Leave the policemen alone. He was taking Kshs50. Go for the governor who has used millions of money to put up a billboard or a newspaper advert saying that they are giving land waiver and yet his image is more than half of the message."
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"content": "Today if you listen to our vernacular radio station; if you allowed me, I could say it the way they say it in our vernacular. You will hear the presenter saying it is 9.00 o'clock, time being notified by governor so and so of a certain county, who is reminding you to pay your land rates. A governor is reminding me time on a radio station using tax- payers’ money. It happens every day, every moment, 12 times a day. You can see what they are doing with our minds. That is radicalization. You will think the governor is giving you a waiver; he is not. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the law is very clear, there is no governor who gives land waivers. It is only a CECM Treasury or Finance who has been given an opportunity by the law to give land waivers, not a governor or anyone. We, therefore, do not understand why they are putting images and some of those images are not attractive. When you are told to pay a fine and you look at that person or that image, you can get depressed. Can they put logos and emblems of our counties? As I conclude, we talk about misuse of funds, but you will see a governor putting the portrait on an ambulance or at the gate, welcoming you to their county. I have gone to Meru and when you are going there, you pass Embu and Kirinyaga counties. You will see some of the portraits saying; welcome to so-and-so county and you will see their image."
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"content": "I am giving this as an example, but what this tells me is to not to think about the people of that county. Start thinking about that governor. Start thinking about that person, rather than the heritage, the homecoming, hospitality, the good and social behaviour of that particular county. If we do not stop the governors from doing this, then we will confuse our people. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, governors as we have been told here by Sen. Mumma, call it so so-and-so care. We do not care. We do not care about who or what name is on that project. What we care about is that, you are using tax-payers’ money, so, do not put your name in that project. This should cut across to even the MPs. You use NC-CDF, but you put up a CDF block saying; under the patronage of--- and then you put your name in there. I mean when you put the year that it was built, it says; we will remember who was the MP then. Otherwise, if you put a NG-CDF project by a certain MP, then you should equally put the names of all the tax-payers’ money because they paid that money. They should have a bigger billboard to put all the 50 million names of Kenyans. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with that, I support."
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"content": " Sen. Beatrice Akinyi."
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"content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank you for this opportunity to support this report. Just last week, I was amongst the delegation at the Pre-Devolution Conference in Homa Bay County as was hosted by the Governor of Homa Bay and the The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "CoG. You should have seen and we continue to see the kind of interest and the value our people attach to devolution. As I start making my presentation, I want to state to you that devolution should work and devolution must be made to work. I also stated there, that devolution must be made to work and devolution should be supported by everyone else, including the national Government sectors. This is because when devolution works, we will receive equity in development that we are all looking forward to and all Kenyans expect. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, as we talk about the branding of public projects with images of governors and members of county assemblies, I sincerely would not really care about who brands what, whose picture is where, if all these projects are implemented and if and when these projects that are initiated and branded are completed. In most of our counties and everywhere else in general, you see projects that have been initiated, brand pictures have been put and yet the projects have not even been completed. My main concern with these projects as budgeted for by the Executive and approved by the county assemblies, is that they must be implemented. All over counties, our people supported and we supported devolution because we wanted services closer to our people and projects taken to all the wards and down even to the villages, so that we would achieve the equity that we are talking about. That is why I say that I may not care so much whose picture is where. If only those projects would be implemented, completed and would be in use by the people of Kenya, then I would be a very happy Senator seated here. The other concern that we have with the projects down there is that of duplication of projects. For instance, on roads projects, when you go to the ground, in some projects Kenya Rural Roads Authority (KeRRA) says they have done them, that is a national outfit, yet the counties are also claiming they have done them. That is what should concern the Senate. That as we approve budgets and they go down, who implements them? Why should we have one road being claimed by two entities? That is really what would concern me. When you come to the branding of the vehicles, traditionally we have grown in this country and we have always known that the red number plate shows it is a mission vehicle, the green number plates in the last few years is an indication that was a county government vehicle that was formerly owned by the county councils. We have the blue number plate implying it is a vehicle belonging to a parastatal. That is only for identity and for ease of picking which vehicle this is. It is really not meant to make them look like personal issues. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we need to tell the world and Kenyans and everybody that holds offices should know, whether they are governors, Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) or even Senators and Members of Parliament, that these seats come and go. Even as the governors sit there, the longest one can take is 10 years and you will go. However, we want the projects to remain and that is why we support devolution. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this morning on a national television (TV), I saw one of us talk about the issues that are ongoing in this county, regarding protests. I am bringing in this because it ties to devolution at some point. The hon. Member, while talking on The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "national TV, made a very misleading statement that Raila used to own protests. Those were the specific words that one leader mentioned on a national TV. I am surprised this leader mentioned Raila's name so many times in the course of their presentation even more than he mentioned his leader, who is the lord of shares."
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"content": "The statement that the leader made on Citizen Television is that in yesteryears, Raila used to own protests. I keep on wondering whether protests are a contest and whether there is a competition of who has done protests more than the other. Are we competing on whose protests are more magnanimous and which protests have caused major damages?"
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"content": "[The Temporary Speaker (Sen. Wakili Sigei) in the Chair]"
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