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"content": "In some instances, you will find that the project has been initiated by even the former President, President Uhuru Kenyatta. If you go there today, placards are there and nothing is happening. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Government should recognize people like Omusundi. This man is bringing issues that we are discussing in this Senate today. He came before our Committee and we have had a discussion. He even came before the Senate Standing Committee on Roads, Transportation and Housing to bring issues. I asked him who was funding him. He said they are a group of people and are not getting anything from anywhere. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is high time as a country that we need to have an oversight body, that can be constituted by the President that will look at issues being handled by the national Government, the county government and even the NG-CDF programmes, to avoid duplication of projects. I remember one time, in Wajir County, the NG-CDF did some work, drilled a pan. The Member of National Assembly then went to inspect the project. He was told that this pan is here. Then he asked, where? He was told, “Where you are standing is where the pan is”. That he was standing in the pan. He told them, “Please, do not tell me this pan is here where I am standing because there is no pan here”. The same pan, was being claimed by two people, a parastatal and NG-CDF. That is why I was saying, a committee should be instituted to look at all government projects. Money for projects done by national and county governments, including NG-CDF is from taxpayers. We should have a team that looks at what is done by national and county governments during a financial year. That includes NG-CDF and donor funding so that there is no duplication. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we have duplication because somebody somewhere wants to steal money from the people of Kenya. What Omusundi is saying is that these are things that are supposed to be done by politicians. He wants to help politicians. He is saying that we should not brand vehicles or projects. I am a Member of the Committee. I thank the Committee for bringing a good proposal which will help this Senate to process this Motion. There is also the issue of EACC. Some Members have spoken here. If you can remember, I talked about EACC having problems. I think the person in charge today, that is Mr. Abdi, is capable. I hope he is listening to what the Senate is saying. I believe Mr. Abdi will take charge and hope that he is going to bring sense to EACC and that the reputation of EACC will be restored. Having said that, interferences from other sources also cause problems of investigating and managing EACC. Therefore, interferences from any quarter should stop. The petitioner is asking us to amend the County Governments Act, 2012. He urges MCAs to stop branding or putting their portraits or images on public-funded projects and I support that. He says that funded projects should be branded courtesy of taxpayers’ money. I do not think that is important because if there is any project constructed by the national Government, that is enough to show that it was done using taxpayers’ money. Display of information is important. If possible, any project that has been completed should be displayed openly and the information on the display should show The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "that the project was initiated on a certain date, institution or company that did it, project amount and completion date. That way, the issue of duplication will not be there. The President has initiated many projects and the follow-up should be there. He should, at his fingertips, know the project initiated by the national Government this year and their completion date. That also includes those initiated by county governments and the NG- CDF. Sometimes I fail to understand. This is because monies that go to the counties, over 90 per cent, are mainly monies from the taxpayerse. They at times behave as if it is not money from the taxpayers. You might think the money is from the governor's own pocket. Sometimes, people forget that the money belongs to the people of Kenya and cannot just be used the way one wants. They cannot put their name, placards and even their friend's name. That is not possible. Having said that, I want to give my friend, Sen. Nyamu, an opportunity to also contribute on this. I take this opportunity to support this Motion and request Sen. Nyamu to support this Motion. This is because I think she will either be a Governor, a Senator or a Woman Representative in Nairobi City County. I pray for her and will give her my support. We have about 50,000 voters from Marsabit County and we will see. If she speaks well today, we will see if she can get that support. Having said that, I thank you very much for this opportunity. I support this Motion."
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"speaker_name": "Sen. Wakili Sigei",
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"content": " Thank you, Sen. Chute. I just want to remind you that it is the Chair who grants any Member of the House the opportunity to speak. You cannot thus claim that you will give Sen. Nyamu the opportunity to speak. With that, Sen. Nyamu, I bet you are the last person to contribute to this Motion. Kindly take the microphone."
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"content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. It is interesting that Sen. Chute does not support governors branding public projects, yet he has stood here and gave conditions of how I will only get the support of the people of Marsabit people if I speak well and support this report from his Committee. He said that he will speak to the 50,000 voters in Nairobi City County from Marsabit to support my bid for the position of Woman Representative. That is undue influence because he is giving me conditions in my work."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, such reports are some of the reasons we exist as a House. The practice of branding public projects with personal images and personal effects has gone on for some time. It has gone on for as long as I can remember. It is not being practiced by governors only. It is also being practiced by MCAs who have ward development funds. The Members of Parliament in the National Assembly who have projects under the NG-CDF also brand those projects with their images. This infringes the nonpartisan nature of Government projects as they are because Government projects and public works are nonpartisan. They do not have to align with a sitting leader who in this case is a sitting governor. What that does is that it alienates the people who do not identify with that particular leader. It alienates them from that project which should create a sense of ownership across board. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Public funds should not be politicized. We all know the kind of manipulation having your image on a project shows. It can be used for campaign and to measure your success. Yet, most of the time, you have nothing to do with the project. It is probably a projection that the county had done even before you got the seat, for example, now you are taking all the credit as a governor to manipulate voters. You can delay a project and make sure you time it just before elections because you know you are going to brand it your image and it is going to give you an unfair advantage on the political competition. I know I am the last speaker to speak on this and so, we do not have the latitude of time. I congratulate this Committee for such a progressive report and for the House for almost unanimously supporting it. These are the kind of changes that the people on the ground expect us to make. In effect we are doing is we are leveling the playing ground between incumbents and incoming leaders. What that does for our political landscape is tremendous. It goes a long way and the effects will be felt everywhere. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, with those few remarks I support. I am waiting for Sen. Chute to do what he said he would do when I support."
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"content": " Hon. Members, there is no other Member to contribute to this Motion. Sen. Chute, you are a member of the Committee. I do not know whether you are ready to do a reply to the Motion. Please, proceed to do it on behalf of the Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations."
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"content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, first of all, I take this opportunity to reply to this Motion. I thank the Members who have contributed today, starting with the Chairperson, of course, Sen. Kisang who also seconded this Motion, Sen, Cheruiyot, Sen. Kavindu, Sen. Cherarkey, Sen. Sifuna, Sen. Wakili Sigei. Sen. Wambua, Sen. Tabitha Mutinda, Sen. Muma, Sen. Karungo Thang’wa, Sen. Beatrice Akinyi, Sen. Murango, Mariam and Sen. Karen Nyamu. I also want to take this opportunity to thank the Chairperson and the members of the Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations Committee. They have done very good work and invited many people. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I request that you defer putting of the question to a later date pursuant to Standing Order No.66(3). I request you to defer until the next sitting. I thank you immensely for the opportunity. On behalf of the Committee I sit in,"
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"content": "asante sana"
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