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"content": " Now, the Floor is open for debate. Senator for Nandi County, proceed."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. While I note that the Mediation Committee of the Senate and National Assembly have done extremely well, our representative failed to note that under Article 96 of the Constitution of Kenya 2010, our role is to protect devolution. In addition, the Fourth Schedule of the Constitution of Kenya, 2010 outlines a critical role for county governments. This includes the issuance of licences, not only for other activities, but also for gambling. While I appreciate there is an amendment that has been proposed by the Committee, we should have elaborated because there are many licenses that we issue. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, when you visit a number of our local shops somewhere in Nandi Town, you will notice the wall is mosaic. It is not because it is a design of that shop, but because of the many licenses that we issue. Therefore, I agree, but we should have retained and given powers for the licensing. While I appreciate that they are proposing that the county will develop county legislation, you have to appreciate this is a country of diversity. When you go where Sen. Haji comes from, and other counties that are predominantly Islamic, yes, even Kwale and also Mombasa predominantly--- I am not saying all of it predominantly. That is good English. It is called prospectus or conceptus."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I thought there was only one speaker in the House. Therefore, it will be a big challenge. So, if you say let counties make their own county legislation, counties that are predominantly Islamic might not allow this. So, what I have proposed in their reports, they will not allow this. They would have proposed a uniform county legislation for counties to be able to fall on this issue of gambling. Owing to the different diverse culture, different religion, you have to appreciate that this culture of gambling is killing many families. Gambling is an addiction. It is becoming a problem. While we appreciate that we must raise taxes, gambling is a dangerous disease. When it is addictive, it should be treated the way it is being treated. Many people are betting, for instance, the other day when Chelsea was playing against PSG. There are people who are still recovering from that shock, especially people who did not support Chelsea to win. T There is the betting scene and there are many betting companies. In our villages where we come from, especially where Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale comes from, I am told young men and women are stealing eggs to go and sell, so that they can gamble. When you visit our small centres, there are some Chinese-like machines called lotteries that are taking a lot of our resources. Therefore, I would have expected our Committee--- We do not want this to be a gambling nation. This is gambling with life. People are gambling with their lives. They go to the streets, they loot. It is just a gambling. You saw some of the young people were even sending money for morticians, even during Saba and during the anniversary of Gen Z demonstrations. We are a dangerous country. We are teaching the young people bad manners of gambling. We have said that you can gamble your way to wealth or to power. We should desist from this. Some of your guests, including boys and girls from various schools, should know that gambling is bad manners. We should not teach our society to gamble. We know people who have gambled their way to where they are; and we do not want to mention names after you gave us directive in the ruling, that you gave it in a Solomonic manner. We do not want to teach anybody to be a gambler. The only gambler we should allow is Kenny Rogers' song about gambling. That is the only song we should allow. The Standing Orders do not allow me to sing. Some of my colleagues are misleading me. You should know when to run and when to stay. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Therefore, there is this issue of trade permits, license for amusement machines and pool table permits. The license supervisor of county issues trade permits for total setters. This is very interesting English. It reminds me of the hearing of the president of Eastern Cape, Judge Selebi Mbenenge, over his claims of sexual harassment and using very powerful English, like what the Committee used here. I would have expected the Committee ---"
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"content": " Sen. Olekina, kindly take your seat. Thank you. Proceed."
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