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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, for protecting me. I agree with the amendment that young people and a representative of the Council of Governors (CoG) should be part of the betting board. Another Committee resolution that I have noted is functions from the Authority, which I agree that the issues of licenses should stay with the counties. We are struggling with own-source revenue. I have seen a number of governors celebrating own-source revenue. We should retain the issue of licensing. The Constitution is very clear in the Fourth Schedule. The power of issues of licensing stay within. I know the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) is struggling to raise money. We are aware that we have a deficit in the budget of Kshs4.2 trillion. We normally, on average, raise Kshs2 trillion through the KRA. While I appreciate that, we should not allow KRA to arrogate itself the power they do not have. Therefore, I agree with this amendment that issues of license, and the factor of raising revenue is only given to two entities. It is given to the national Government and the county government. The Constitution is very clear, that should you want to give yourself power to collect revenue – I am happy Justice retired Stewart Madzayo knows this. You do not take it through the back door. I am running through, because this is Senate amendment Clause 28. I agree that the employees and accreditation for a person in and within gambling premises, so that we do not need to use the police. Another problem is the media. I came to learn this issue because I have seen in Clause 28. I appreciate that the media is struggling to raise revenue; .all the radio stations, the televisions. I have tremendous respect for the media. That is why they are called the Fourth Estate. I was surprised that even old men and women of 70 years are now gambling in radio stations and TVs. It is becoming a dangerous disease. While media is trying to raise the revenue to run their stations, I want them to try to be moral. I know one of the media owners is looking at me. We cannot legislate anything. From morning to evening, you only hear promotions. By this, if you gamble with Kshs1,000, you gain Kshs10,000. We do not want to reduce this country to a gambling nation. We are gambling with our lives. We are gambling with the economy. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "We are gambling with elections. We are gambling our relationships. I want to agree that we must regulate these media promotions. It should be parental guidance rated. It should be put at the watershed period, so that we do not need the NCCK or the Kenya Episcopal Conference of Catholic Bishops or the evangelical, traditional or the Islamic religions to come out and tell us to legislate on issues that can be done morally. We do not want to create a society - an aspect of capitalism. You know capitalism does not have a soul and a heart. Therefore, I agree that we must regulate. I am told that these promotions that you do in the media, you can imagine one million Kenyans sending Kshs100 each and they end up giving out only a gift of Kshs500,000. They are making a lot of money. Number 31, I agree that the period of validity of license fee increases from 12 to 36 months. This one will give opportunity. I agree that let us increase from 12 months this issue of operation license of gambling. It should be increased from 12 months to 36 months, so that it can allow ease of doing business, convenience and reliability. Therefore, this issue of 12 to 36 months is very critical, so that it becomes predictable. I was talking to some businessmen and women. It is becoming a problem visiting county offices. When you go to county offices, you are being told; can you come behind the tent? It is inconveniencing to start a business in this country. I appeal to Government agencies. It is difficult to start a business in this country. By the time you get even one license, if you have never gotten a heart attack, you get diabetes or hypertension. This is because we have created a very tedious process of acquiring licenses, including those from the National Environment Management Authority (NEMA) and other relevant agencies, such as public health. Why can we not create a single portal where, when you want to apply for a license, you can obtain only one license? If today you want to cut a tree in Nairobi, the agencies that you will go through are more than the process of going to Heaven. It is so tedious and unfortunate. Therefore, by the time you get your license, if you are not sick, you are bankrupt. I agree that there should be predictability and the gambling license should be increased from 12 months to 36 months. On the issue of lottery tax at the rate of 15 per cent, as I indicated, the gambling issue, we should be very careful as a country. In fact, I request the Committee on Trade and the Committee on ICT to do an audit of the gambling that we have. You are being told, you can win a goat, car, Kshs100,000 or a trip to Diani. They are just playing with the imagination of Kenyans and making more money. I am daring you today, I can see the Chairperson of the Committee on Trade, Sen. Issa Juma Boy. Just take one media company or an advert. One million Kenyans, including our old men and women, spend Kshs100 each in the village, and they only give a reward of Kshs500,000 or even Kshs20,000. Those guys are making devilish and satanic profits at the expense of Kenyans. Some people are going without food because they are gambling. I know the football season is over, but I appeal to many young people or has it begun? Yes, it is coming in August. I agree that we need to introduce the lottery tax of 15 per cent as a The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "preventive mechanism against the disease called gambling. This issue of gambling must and should be addressed. While I appreciate, it is not lost on us that most of these betting companies are sponsoring football tournaments and are giving support. They are giving out Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR). When you compare the CSR that these betting and lottery companies are giving, it is a drop in the ocean. Therefore, they must pay tax. I normally see them sponsor Gor Mahia and AFC Leopards. In the spirit of East Africa, I have a lot of interest in Tanzania. I normally see SportPesa sponsoring Simba or Yanga down there in Tanzania. While we appreciate, we want them to be sponsor of AFC Leopards, Harambee Stars and many other companies."
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"content": "(Sen. Faki spoke off record)"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": " Hon. Faki, allow your colleague to make his comments. If you need to give information, you know what to do."
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"content": "Old habits die hard and I understand why. He is a good man. The tax should be charged by the license booker and we agree with that. Majority Leader, I do not know whether your membership is aware of the reality on the ground."
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"content": "Vitu kwa ground ni different."
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"content": "Forgive my language. However, how do you reduce from Kshs20 to Kshs1? You will allow the small children to also bet. Where is the Mover of this report? I do not think he is around. You will allow young boys and girls to bet because you are reducing it from Kshs20 to Kshs1. This minimum amount bet, unless, with a lot of tremendous respect--- This law reflects the role of the betting companies. We must agree that the national---"
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"speaker_name": "Hon. Kingi",
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"content": " Senator for Nandi County, the Senator for Bomet County wishes to give information. Are you amenable?"
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"content": "No. If it were about Chebole Road, I would have agreed, but on this one, I am an expert."
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