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"content": "money has reached their target, they close and the website disappears. They then come to Kenya and do the same. Once they hit their target, they do the same. To require companies or individuals, especially foreigners who want to engage in this business must put a substantial deposit, then this report is carrying the wishes of many of us who debated this on the Floor of this House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I also like the fact that this report has carried the idea that on the local scene, the advertisements for gambling must be discouraged during the time our children are there or when they are still awake. When you travel to foreign countries, the adverts for gambling are aired mostly at night. However, in this country, there are many of them. As has been said by the previous speaker, before we enact this law, you find that there are many adverts in our radio and television sets. This proposed law, when assented to by the President, will get rid of this. It has also made a significant step forward in controlling gambling. I do not gamble because I was taught by my parents not to do so. As parents, we have the responsibility to teach our children that the question of pata potea is not part of our culture. At the end, we must teach our children that hard work is the only way you will make it in life. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this reminds me of many years ago when I was considering to open my first law firm in Mombasa. I went to seek advice from senior practitioners. It is almost 40 years and I can still remember one who told me: “Mungatana, there is no shortcut to success. You see where I am, I have worked hard.”"
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"content": "I am glad there are children who have visited us in the Senate today and they are listening to us from the Gallery. I want to tell you that there is no shortcut to success; you must put in the work. All of these Senators who are seated here, none of them will tell you--- You can see their suits and nice looks, but they will not tell you the story of sleeping late at night, moving with broken vehicles, spending nights in most uncomfortable situations, looking for votes and convincing people to sell their visions. That is why they are seated here. Do not see the glamour and forget that there was work behind that glamour. The gambling culture is being spread in the belief that you can make it immediately. Anybody who tells you “immediately” is a red flag. If any person tells you to put money so that you make money immediately, run away like you are running away from the devil himself. It is good to do hard work. By the time you get your Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education (KCSE), it is many years of hard work. There are eight years of primary and four years of secondary school. Nobody told you that you can put in a card or coin and become a graduate of KCSE then you are ready for university. There is no shortcut. We will make this law, but just know that the story is yours at the end. The story is your mother and father or guardian. You must not gamble. Go and work hard and you will be successful to the extent that you imagined you would be in life. Mr. Speaker, Sir, with those many remarks, I wish to support the mediated version of the Bill and confidently ask the President to assent to it, so that we can regulate the gambling business. Let us not go back and forth on this matter. Let us have a law and The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "if it is not good enough, the Senate does not stop operating. It will amend any section that is not good for the sake of good order in this country. I thank you."
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"content": " Proceed, Sen. Olekina."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to oppose this Report of the Medication Committee on the Gambling Control Bill (National Assembly Bills No.70 of 2023). I do so cognizant of the fact that we are living in an environment where 90 per cent of our youth are jobless. We are having protests on a daily basis because of social, mental and economic issues that we have not addressed. We are now seeking an escape route to live in a utopian world of getting rich fast."
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"content": "I was speaking to one of our colleagues here. She told me that one pastor in her village in Machakos collected all offerings in a church, but instead of using it to solve social issues or do God’s work, he ended up gambling."
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"content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have skimmed through this Report. There are areas that this House had suggested that be deleted in the Bill. However, most of them have been retained. There is a reason this Bill ended up in mediation."
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"content": "This is not the time for us to encourage gambling in this country. I share the same sentiments with colleagues who have spoken before me in terms of making it punitive for anyone to gamble. However, we must first of all solve our social issues."
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"content": "Gambling companies which make billions of dollars target vulnerable poor societies. These are people who make Kshs500 a day doing manual jobs. Our radio and television stations are the easiest way to communicate. Instead of our own radio stations taking more time to educate the public and carry out public participation on dangers of gambling, they spend more time collecting revenue because they share profits."
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"content": "I completely oppose gambling and, therefore, oppose this Bill. If I were to convince my colleagues from both sides of the aisle, I would request that we rethink gambling in this country. I lived in America for many years and I am also a resident there. When you go to certain states, gambling is restricted to a particular area, where only the rich can drive. In Colorado, gambling is a native American reservation where there is a city set aside just for that. Therefore, only the rich go there. Those are people who have made money which they can use as they wish. It is not even disposal--- There is a word I wanted to use which is not parliamentary. It is like having money that you do not care about. You do not give a hoot on where that money comes from."
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