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"content": "Sen. Tabitha, you are here as the Vice-Chairperson of the Budget and Finance Committee. You will have let down the country if you do not call to order the National Treasury to give you, one, the feasibility studies that are done across all the 47 counties before signing up for all these programmes that are listed here; the justification why this programme needs to run in our counties. Part of the reason Kenyans chose devolution in 2010 was self-governance. I would rather we put those funds in the hands of our county governments and let the people decide through their representatives in the county assembly and the governors that they elect on their priority areas. If you read this report by our colleagues, from paragraph 27, there is Aquaculture Business Development Programme (ABDP), Kshs200 million. International Development Association (IDA) - World Bank, on this thing they call Financially Locally Led Climate Action (FLOCA) programme, Kshs121 million. There is another one by IDA, part of the FLOCA, a grant of Kshs6.2 billion. There is the German Development Corporation (GDC), also on FLOCA, Kshs1.2 billion, with 16 counties. No direction specifically on how those 16 counties were agreed upon. There is another one for Food System Resilience Programme (FSRP) funded by IDA, the development agency of the World Bank, Kshs3.2 billion. Drought Resilience Programme (DRP) for Northern Kenya by the German Development Corporation (GDC), sum of Kshs1.28 billion. There is this one that I am talking about, Kenya Devolution Support Programme (KDSP). One is a grant of Kshs1.762 billion to all the 47 counties and others. There is KDSP Phase 2. This one now is not a grant. There is Kenya Livestock Commercialization (KLC) and the Kenya Urban Support Programme (KUSP). There is Danida for primary health, water and sanitation. There is also the Kenya Informal Settlement Improvement Programme, Kshs1 billion. This is the one that I mentioned earlier, by World Bank, Kshs840 million. There are about 20 different programmes that are being run. If you ask the members of Budget and Finance Committee to explain to us, as a House, what the conceptualization of this programme was. What is the county-specific justification provided to say we need to do some climate action, improve our livestock or our informal settlement? Some counties, like where I come from, and even this, Sen. Cherarkey, there is nothing of significance that you can call a slum. A total of 200, 300, 400 or 500 people living in some form of settlement at a corner in the county does not qualify or pass for an informal settlement. That money can be put to more prudent use. I wish we had turned those resources into agriculture farm support programme, so that we support either our tea or our sugarcane farmers. We would get more value out of it as a country and as a county. Unless there is proper justification on these programmes provided to us here in the Senate as a custodian of the interest of county governments and its people, we need to make a decision before the next financial year. We can let these ones pass because we have already made a decision about it, but there needs to be a better administration of this space. Perhaps, at the next joint retreat of the House, we can invite the partners that are running all these programmes to explain to us and help us appreciate what their thinking is, so that we equally share our feedback with them. I do not want to take longer than that The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "because I know many of us want to speak on this topic, but I register my appreciation with the industry of the committee. I request that we support them and conclude on this very important piece of legislation. I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Sen. Aaron Cheruiyot. I call upon Sen. Samson Cherarkey."
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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, for this opportunity. We have spoken to most of these Bills, especially in the process from Division of Revenue. One of the critical roles of the Senate is what we are doing today. Under Article 96, the role of the Senate is to protect devolution. One way of protecting devolution is allocating sufficient resources. The role of the Senate, for the benefit of your guests at the gallery, is to protect devolution, do representation, oversight and budget-making, which they are privileged to watch from the gallery. The County Governments Additional Allocation No.2 Bill of 2025 emanates from Article 202 of the Constitution of Kenya, 2010, where these additional funds can be conditional or unconditional, unlike Article 210, where it talks about at least 15 per cent of latest audited national revenue. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I would like to appeal to the National Assembly to fast track the auditing of the latest revenue. I insist and repeat the umpteenth time, that it does not make sense that the national budget is Kshs4.2 trillion yet we are allocating Kshs415 billion only to counties. Counties are choking on their own weight of the wage bill. The highest county was Kisii, with almost 56 to 58 per cent wage bill. Nandi County is a forgone story, where your friend is spending over Kshs4 billion in terms of wage bill with an allocation of Kshs8 billion. That is why the people of Nandi County now cannot access markets. The roads are totally impassable. I saw a number of local artists which you are familiar with, slipping and falling down during the Jantex homecoming in Cherondo. A number of them like DJ Kaptula, Arap Uria, Koima, among others, bore the brunt. Just like Bomet County, we are blessed with a lot of rains. There are so many stalled projects in Nandi County. For example, Kapsengere Health Centre, Kobujoi Health Centre, which is a stone's throw away from the Governor's home. We have one in Chepterwai Health Centre in Nyayo Ward has stalled, Nandi's Hills Stadium, which whenever it rains, it is always flooded. It is a pity that it has never been fixed by the county government. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I received a report from the Controller of Budget (CoB) on the money we have disbursed to the County Government of Nandi dated 30th June, 2025. We need to see value for money. It cannot be that we are using so much energy on the Floor of the House to allocate a lot of resources to counties and it is not spent on the intended purposes. The big challenge in Nandi County is that most of the roads remain impassable. We have six sub-counties in Nandi County with impassable roads. These are not only national roads, but also county roads, also known as feeder roads. The Nandi County Government is fond of grading our roads. They do not murram, drainage and culvert them. As a result, roads remain impassable and farmers cannot delivery their milk, tea and cane to market, especially during the rainy season. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Bomet and Nandi counties collect a lot cess from tea farming. Cess money can be spent on fixing some of these roads in Nandi and Aldai sub-counties. This money is not"
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"content": "sadaka."
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"content": "It is not tithe and offering for governors to use it to show the largesse of power. It is embarrassing that as I speak today, there are people who are assigned to carry governor's seat or even toilets around for his comfort, yet many of our people do not access drugs in our hospitals and health centres. For example, there are no adequate drugs in Kapsabet County Referral Hospital and in a number of dispensaries in subcounties, including Mosoriot. I do not know whether when governors sit on those seats, their sitting positions change or they are massaged. My governor is fond of carrying such seats around. I do not know whether it has a massage machine that massages him when he sit on it. They carry Very Important Persons (VIP) toilets around. They carry those toilets around yet the local Early Childhood Development Education (ECDE) centres like Kapkeri are not functional and are in deplorable state. This money is not meant to make governors look good. It is meant for service delivery to our people in county governments and county assemblies. I am happy to see the Chairperson of the Senate County Public Accounts Committee (CPAC). He has been as rare as a snowball in hell in this House, but it is good to see him. He even looks radiant. I am also happy to see one of the notorious litigants and the presidential hopeful, Sen. Okiya Omtatah, in the House. I would like to inform him that there is a report that has shown that Kenyans are losing confidence with the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) in the fight against corruption in this country. I say without fear of contradicting myself that when the EACC appeared before CPAC in last session, they told us they had only done a conviction of Kshs20,000. We see largesse when you go to upmarket estates in this city. Most of the buildings or modern homes that are being built within the renowned estates in this country are constructed by people connected to county governments or alleged governors. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, some governors no longer stay in their own counties. They perambulate and gallivant within the city. There are governors who are running their counties through remote control. The Chairperson of CPAC knows those governors. I do not know whether his governor is exempted. Many of these governors come from northern part of this country, especially northeastern. Many of them from northern Kenya, are remote controlling their counties from here. Remember the incident of Garissa County when there was a breakout of fire in Masjid Market that almost spread to Garissa County Referral Hospital. The people who were controlling the firefighting machines did not know even how to operate them and yet, we are allocating billions of shillings to counties. In the Financial Year 2024/2025, my governor had the audacity of using a car hire services of Kshs42 million, yet the children of Nandi County are yet to receive bursaries. It is a paradox and an insult that we tax Kenyans, but they do not see that value in service provision. We saw what happened in Tenwek Hospital. It is a very sad story. According to the Auditor-General’s Report for the Financial Year 2024/2025, my governor used Kshs42 million on car hire services. Yet in 2013, the County Government of Nandi had already purchased vehicles for official use. Most of those vehicles only need a battery, The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "service or tyres. If this is not abuse of government’s resources, then what is? Using Kshs42 million on car hire, while roads remain impassable, is unacceptable. We appeal to the EACC to take action. A sum of Kshs4 billion, almost 40 to 50 per cent of Nandi County’s budget is consumed by the wage bill. Mr. Temporary Speaker, you are a man who is always alive to the current affairs. You remember the EACC’s impromptu visit to Kapsabet County Headquarters. They took away computers and carried off payroll records. However, to this day, they have not even arrested a rat. Not even a rat! Yet they claim to be serious about fighting corruption. Ghost workers are easy to trace. You can track the money directly from the Nandi County Revenue Fund (CRF) account to the payroll. You can trace the ghost workers, including the people who are close to the governor with close blood consanguinity, yet no one has been arrested up to date. We want to see action. That is why I challenge EACC today. Kenyans have lost trust in their fight against corruption. I met colleagues from the National Assembly. I know colleagues are aware of the constitutional amendment to entrench the National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF). Personally, I am not interested in the Senate Oversight Fund. I want the Senate’s capacity, ability and functionality to be broadened, including the power to veto Bills. They told us that NG-CDF is working more effectively than county government funds because we have allowed governors to misuse funds. As the saying goes, “Before you kill a dog, you must give it a bad name.” That is the challenge we are facing. We have now become the issue. I know the Chairperson of CPAC is in the House, alongside the Vice-Chairperson of County Public Investment and Special Funds Committee (CPISFC). The only time we act is after we have appropriated the funds. Then we become morticians; we arrive at the tail end. There is a weak link in the accountability of these resources. That is why Members of the County Assembly (MCAs) must act. They are the ones who will go to the Bomet County Assembly and appropriate the funds, led by Speaker Cosmas Korir. We also count on MCAs in Migori, Homa Bay and Busia counties to do the same. I do not know whether the presidential hopeful still visits Busia. The last time he went there, he returned to Nairobi under a rain of stones. I am not sure what happened. I believe that in this country when someone declares interest in the presidency, his security detail should be enhanced. That is what happens in Western nations. We rely on leaders like Sen. Oketch Gicheru, the Vice-Chairperson of CPISFC and Chairperson of Standing Committee on Roads and Transport. He is doing a commendable job. The only time CPISFC gets involved is when they are being morticians. My Chairperson, Sen. M. Kajwang’, is one of the ranking Members in this House. In the future, similar to the Senate of the United States of America (USA), he should be recognized as a ranked member. Sen. M. Kajwang’ understands that our involvement often comes too late. We interact with issues only after damage is done. We are doing post-mortem. We are now morticians. We cannot salvage anything. Talking about car hire services of Kshs42 million, those guys have been paid. If we wanted to ask whether that man is prudent or not, how will we ask? The investigation is ongoing in Bomet County. These people come at the tail end as morticians, there is The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "nothing you can do. We will just diagnose and say this and that, and they will write a report which will be tabled before the Senate. We will make a recommendation. They will look at our recommendation as if it is a love letter. They will look at it as if it is flowers, we are giving to them. They will ignore. It is a sad reality and Kenyans must accept this. The much we can do is to recommend. Last weekend, I was in Mosoriot, Aldai and Mosop sub-counties, I met people who told me, Senator, the money has been lost, we do not see roads. As I said, the only thing we can do is to recommend. Unless Kenyans amend the Constitution and give powers to the Senate to arrest, prosecute and detain, maybe that one will be resolved. On the issue of additional funds, I heard Sen. Eddy mentioned that we are getting Kshs55 million. However, I want to challenge the Committee on Finance and Budget led by the able Vice-Chairperson, Sen. Mutinda, I saw her here--- I do not know whether Karen Nyamu was with the President in the Nairobi tour. Yes, both of you were with the President. It is good you are standing with him. It cannot be that up to now, Kshs15 billion of mineral royalties has not been released to Migori or Nandi. I think you need to tell Hon. Mbadi, one of the experts that was given to us, to release this Kshs15 billion. This is because your people are suffering. Yesterday we were discussing the issue of Equalisation Fund and said Kshs46.5 billion is yet to be released. Are we serious? How do we expect services to be provided to our people? In Chemelil, Chamase, we have Kerebe Gold Mine. We need to see value in Kapsabet. On the issue of intern doctors, that one has been resolved and I am happy. The Community Health Promoters (CHP) must be seen--- I want to make a final comment in the interest of time. Since Nandi will get Kshs480.8 million in terms of additional funds, I want to make an appeal that this amount be prudently spend. I agree with the Senate Majority Leader that the World Bank is now a conduit of corruption. When the first Kenya Urban Support Programme (KUSP) and Kenya Devolution Programme (KDP) came to Nandi, I wrote so many letters to the World Bank to demand accountability and projects being done in Nandi. They never responded. They imagined I was sending them compliments. I challenge the Committee on Finance and Budget and the CPAC to call this World Bank another donor fund. They must be accountable. They are busy lecturing us about democracy and accountability yet when you today write about KUSP and KDP, World Bank will never even acknowledge your receipt of your letter. They will never tell you what is happening in Bomet. They have specific contractors. That is why my people in Mosoriot Township are demonstrating. We have tried to engage the World Bank. Why is World Bank operating in secrecy? Like they are night runners. They are possessing witchcraft and sorcery. Sen. Eddy, Sen. M. Kajwang’, Sen. Mutinda, the World Bank and other donors who give us grants and loans must appear before Senate and tell us what they are doing in Nairobi. Why do they want to operate above the law? This money is not funeral money or"
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