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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, that is why I am one of those who support affordable housing, so that we can onboard everybody. There is no one single country in this world that has developed without putting in place social infrastructure to ensure that we take care of the disadvantaged. As we bring equalisation across the country, we must not forget the pillars that our people need. This includes hospitals, access to working universal health system and a good education system. Madam Temporary Speaker, this can only be achieved if we move to a fully registered population, so that we can onboard everybody. Most importantly, knowing the status of each and every Kenyan so that as we implement the policies of the Government and formulate laws in this House we can know that we have a fully registered population as is in the other countries. Whenever there is an emergency, we can do a targeted, more The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "specific approach, instead of random interventions that at times end up benefiting the rich. The Equalisation Fund is an opportunity that we have. We must understand that we have benefits of ensuring that each region in this country benefits. As I pointed earlier, 80 per cent of our landmass does not contribute to the GDP. It is the high time that we bring this to an end. I support."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, it is heart-paining and very sad to hear people who come from Nyeri and other parts of the country that they need to kill the spirit of the Constitution. I like what Sen. Sifuna has said about issues of water in many parts of the country where the Constitution targeted. As he has said, people in Nyeri have rivers. I am sorry to talk about Nyeri, Sen. Wamatinga, because you are supporting the expansion of the initial list to other parts of the country. People in northern Kenya, where I come from, go for two or three weeks without even taking a bath. In some dams that are constructed, people drink the water that animals urinate in. Therefore, it very sad to be selfish as leaders. I wish there is a way that those who sit at the national level can visit those parts of the country and see the kind of challenges our people go through. In many parts of northern Kenya, mothers carry jerry cans on their back, travelling for kilometres and hours. They leave in the morning at six and come back in the evening with one jerry can of 20 litres back home. That is the same water that they use for animals and their homes. In some parts of this country, electricity is connected to mud houses. If you go to some parts of this country, especially in northern Kenya and where I come from, there is no electricity connectivity. There is no electricity connectivity in many parts of those sub- counties and locations. I think it is good to be sincere. Therefore, when you stand on the Floor of the House and say that expansion is good, it is neither good nor fair. It is unequal. I can tell you this House in the last Parliament made a blunder to have allocated that money to the county government. This is because that money is shared actually in Nairobi with individuals who do not even know some parts of those counties. There is no public participation. People are given contracts without advertising. There is need to review the expansion of the list so that we are fair to the people living in those areas or intended for initially as far as Equalisation Fund is concerned. Madam Temporary Speaker, in my county, there are dispensaries that were constructed by the Equalisation Fund. I talk of Mwangaza, the one that Senate visited when they went there and Akadeli that is not even complete. It is a shell. Nobody is checking which projects have stalled and which ones have not. I urge the Committee on Finance and Budget to call the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury and Economic Planning to look at what impact Equalisation Fund has on those counties that it was intended to support. It was intended to run for 20 years. We have almost done 17. There is zero impact as far as Equalisation Fund is concerned. I believe devolution has assisted in one way or The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "the other. One can say because devolution is there, we should forget what the intention of equalisation is. I urge Senate Committee of Finance and Budget to review the impact of the Equalisation Fund in this country. Finally, I wish to pass a message of condolences to the five people who were killed last night in Isiolo because there are four families that were torched to death and one other person who was torched to death in Isiolo County. I talked about insecurity in Isiolo the last time we had impeachment of the Governor. Today, there are two Speakers fighting in the County Assembly of Isiolo. Where is the law? Where is the country? I urge the Inspector-General of Police; you need to do something about insecurity in Isiolo. I have discussed with the Cabinet Secretary for Interior and National Administration and the Principal Secretary (PS) Interior as far as the County Commissioner for Isiolo is concerned. That County Commissioner has stayed there for eight years and there is so much insecurity. He is doing nothing and he must be removed. If the Government does not remove him, then the will of the people will apply."
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"content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, I rise to support the Equalisation Fund Allocation Bill. It was set up to bring the areas that were marginalised to what the Constitution describes as general levels where the whole country is. Even as we look at the current Equalisation Fund allocation that we are discussing today, one of the key concerns that we should ask ourselves as a Senate is why is it that in the same counties, the same challenges that were there before devolution are still the same challenges we are experiencing in those counties. The Equalisation Fund was meant to address four sectors, health, water, roads and electricity. Of key concern to me is the issues of health and water. In terms of health, the Equalisation Fund that has been set, I am very particular with the counties that have been mentioned, including the county of Sen. Dullo. This money should be released. We make sure those facilities that have stalled there for the last three to five years are completed with that money. Madam Temporary Speaker, Isiolo County will receive over Kshs270 million. How I wish that the Governor for Isiolo County, the man who escaped the scissors of this House by a whisker, would use the opportunity that he has to redeem himself by utilizing this money and completing those hospitals. Madam Temporary Speaker, it is also a big concern when we talk of water in these counties. Yes, there is scarcity of water. However, at the same time in the rainy seasons, you will hear that there are floods and roads washed away. There is no water. How come these counties cannot prioritize, even using the equitable share allocation to make sure that they mitigate these old, long problems these counties have experienced? Madam Temporary Speaker, the Senator for West Pokot County will tell you, along the road connecting West Pokot and Turkana, there are specific places that we have been experiencing floods for the last 60 years. I do not understand why dams have not been constructed upstream to harvest that water, considering the allocation that those counties have been given. So, even as we talk about the Equalisation Fund, it should not The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "be lost that these 11 initially marginalised counties were receiving reasonable allocation of equitable share. If you look at the allocation for Turkana, Mandera, Wajir, Marsabit, Isiolo counties vis-a-vis the geographical size and other challenges, they have received quite substantial amount of funds. If there was deliberate effort to deploy those resources to mitigate in these long-standing challenges in those counties, today, we would probably be speaking a different language. Madam Temporary Speaker, we also want to call on the National Treasury. As a House led by the Chairperson of the Senate Standing Committee on Finance and Budget, we need to cause an amendment to the Public Finance Management (PFM) Act. We must separate the Ministry of Finance for the national Government and the National Treasury that serves the two levels of Government, so that these funds can be released on time to be able to address the four key areas that were meant to be addressed. I am happy that Baringo County will receive Kshs967 million. I have seen the distribution. Tiati Constituency will receive Kshs582 million. Tiati as a constituency or sub-county is probably 10 times Uasin Gishu, Nandi, Trans Nzoia and Elgeyo Marakwet counties combined in terms of geographical location. To provide some services in some of those places is quite a challenge. That is why we wish that the National Treasury would release all these equalisation funds on a timely manner so that these regions are able to benefit, services are rendered and the citizens of those places would be able to access what other Kenyans in other parts are enjoying I wish to implore our governors from these marginalised regions, having visited a number of facilities in those counties as the Senate Standing Committee on Health, that even as we send the Equalisation Fund, be concerned about the welfare of their people. It would not be in order to find a sub-county health facility or even a county referral facility in that region, where women are being asked to carry water as they go to the maternity facilities. We are not only discussing areas that are marginalised. In Nairobi City County, the Senator of Nairobi City County is aware that we visited a number of the facilities. A hospital like Mama Lucy Kibaki is still suffering from a lot of problems in terms of congestion. There is no expansion, yet if you look at the allocation going to Nairobi City County, including their own social revenue, they should have done better than what we are seeing. I call upon the governors in those 11 original marginalised counties, to focus in solving these historical problems that we have had, using both the equalisation funds that we are sending and also the equitable share. I would want to ask particularly the governors for Turkana and West Pokot counties where we experience floods that cut the roads all the time, to utilize their resources prudently. For example, Turkana County with the allocation of close to Kshs13 billion would just allocate Kshs2 billion per year just to do dams, it would be the highest productive county in the country. I agree with my colleagues who say these marginalised counties are the next frontiers of development because they are well endowed with natural resources. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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"content": "Turkana County is where we have oil in the country. In Tana River County, we have minerals and we can carry out agricultural activities. Similarly, we have minerals like gypsum in Garissa and Wajir counties. As soon as these minerals are exploited, it will be a shame for the rest of us who do not want to support the raising of the living standards of people in those regions to begin moving to those areas in the name that, that is Kenya. We must accept that that region is Kenya now when they need development. They will remain Kenya even when the natural resources in those regions are exploited for the benefit of the country. I support and ask the National Treasury to make sure that they release the Equalisation Fund in a timely manner. I thank you."
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"content": " Thank you, Senator. Sen. Mwaruma Jones, please proceed."
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